You should put a spoiler alert if you're going to tank your own jokes. Sheesh.
Kim Cattrall as a Vulcan?
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You should put a spoiler alert if you're going to tank your own jokes. Sheesh.
I just watched TUC today (Netflix has it on Instant View now). It was a really good movie, but Kim Catrall should NOT play a Vulcan. None of that well-known stoic expression for which Vulcans are renowned. Her face is way to expressive and emotional. I still don't buy her logic for being the traitor, either.
She would have been better as a Romulan.
She would have been better as a naked Romulan.
Kim Catrall and early Jolene Blalock were terrible Vulcans, emoting all over the place and such. Just disgusting.
Well, I liked Kim Cattral's Valeris, smirk and all. And she is one of the hottest Vulcans, up there with T'Pring and Sakonna! Maybe Valeris was the inspiration for Quark's popular program, Vulcan Love Slave! 
For those of you objecting to Cattral's somewhat emotional Vulcan, do you feel the same way about Saavik? Kirstie Alley certainly emoted all over the place in TWOK.
Red Ranger
For those of you objecting to Cattral's somewhat emotional Vulcan, do you feel the same way about Saavik? Kirstie Alley certainly emoted all over the place in TWOK.
Red Ranger
Well, I liked Kim Cattral's Valeris, smirk and all. And she is one of the hottest Vulcans, up there with T'Pring and Sakonna! Maybe Valeris was the inspiration for Quark's popular program, Vulcan Love Slave!
For those of you objecting to Cattral's somewhat emotional Vulcan, do you feel the same way about Saavik? Kirstie Alley certainly emoted all over the place in TWOK.
Red Ranger
I totally agree with Red Ranger. He put it very well.
I thought Cattrall's Valeris was great, better than either of the Saavik's. She was a cool, sexy Vulcan. I loved the hairstyle (which was her idea) and I thought she nailed the role. Her mind-meld with Nimoy was just great!
It's a shame we didn't get to see that character again. Maybe causing more mischief in the TNG era?
She was an interesting portrayal. I watched Trek VI last weekend.
The only thing wrong with Cattrall as a Vulcan was that she wore too many clothes.
I really liked Cattrall's Vulcan, i thought she did a great job with it.
Well, I liked Kim Cattral's Valeris, smirk and all. And she is one of the hottest Vulcans, up there with T'Pring and Sakonna! Maybe Valeris was the inspiration for Quark's popular program, Vulcan Love Slave!
For those of you objecting to Cattral's somewhat emotional Vulcan, do you feel the same way about Saavik? Kirstie Alley certainly emoted all over the place in TWOK.
Red Ranger
Of course, though it didn't make it into the final cut, Alley was playing a half-Romulan/half-Vulcan in Wrath of Khan. And Cattrell was in VI because she'd auditioned for the part in STII, and the director called her up when Kirstie Alley wasn't available (/affordable) to reprise what was initially supposed to be the same character.
So if they're both over-expressive for Vulcans, that's because they were both cast to be 'not-quite-Vulcans'. (and the book version of TUC provides an explanation for why Valeris would be like though even once she's not Saavik anymore). Which works on a character level: why would Spock tutor self-assured pure Vulcans? He'd be more likely to take under his wing part-Vulcans who, like him, are trying to live up to the ideal, but...
100% agreed.
Well, I liked Kim Cattral's Valeris, smirk and all. And she is one of the hottest Vulcans, up there with T'Pring and Sakonna! Maybe Valeris was the inspiration for Quark's popular program, Vulcan Love Slave!
For those of you objecting to Cattral's somewhat emotional Vulcan, do you feel the same way about Saavik? Kirstie Alley certainly emoted all over the place in TWOK.
Red Ranger
Of course, though it didn't make it into the final cut, Alley was playing a half-Romulan/half-Vulcan in Wrath of Khan. And Cattrell was in VI because she'd auditioned for the part in STII, and the director called her up when Kirstie Alley wasn't available (/affordable) to reprise what was initially supposed to be the same character.
So if they're both over-expressive for Vulcans, that's because they were both cast to be 'not-quite-Vulcans'. (and the book version of TUC provides an explanation for why Valeris would be like though even once she's not Saavik anymore). Which works on a character level: why would Spock tutor self-assured pure Vulcans? He'd be more likely to take under his wing part-Vulcans who, like him, are trying to live up to the ideal, but...
Diankra,
Yes, quite true about both characters. Each had a reason why they weren't typical Vulcans. Of course, going by canon, there is no mention on-screen of Saavik's half-Romulan heritage. Interestingly, her backstory in the novellized version of TWOK was lifted for Tasha Yar's backstory -- both were survivors of failed colonies, Tasha from a falied Federation colony, Saavik from a failed Romulan colony.
I do like your speculation that Spock would gravitate to proteges close to his own cicumstance, figuring they might need more mentoring than an already disciplined full Vulcan.
Red Ranger
I think that's right, as he was the first half-human half-Vulcan.
Really? When was that stated?
While diankra touches on it above, it's worth noting that the novel says Valeris wasn't raised by her parents, but by a non-Vulcan family servant when her parents were killed (by Klingons, I think).
Like Saavik, Valeris wouldn't have the traditional Vulcan personality, since she lacked the background.
Sure, I know that in both cases the "whys" didn't make it to screen, but the backstories did exist and contributed to how the characters were depicted onscreen. In that sense, they could be viewed as canon, since the outworking of both backstories WAS seen onscreen, namely their slightly "non-Vulcan" temperments.
Like Saavik, Valeris wouldn't have the traditional Vulcan personality, since she lacked the background.
Sure, I know that in both cases the "whys" didn't make it to screen, but the backstories did exist and contributed to how the characters were depicted onscreen. In that sense, they could be viewed as canon, since the outworking of both backstories WAS seen onscreen, namely their slightly "non-Vulcan" temperments.
I don't remember.
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