Furture's End & Home????

[exodus]

I just happened to watch this two parter the other day. While it's one on my favorite stories with in the Voyager series, I caught something I didn't before.

Janeway talks about the crew living on some small island or unexplored part of Earth inorder not to tamper with the natural social & industrial evolution of the planet. Chakotay later in pt.2 jokingly asks Be'Lanna what career she'll take on 21st century Earth.


My question is: If they still have Voyager in that time, why couldn't crew members like Tuvok or Be'Lanna go back to their own home worlds? Why couldn't the human crew still live on Voyager and beam down to Earth every so often if they really were going to be stuck there?

 

[Mrs Paris]

the other thing I thought about when they talk about staying on earth, is that yeah it's fine for the hundred or so humans on that ship, but what about B'Elanna, Neelix, Chell....the people who don't look exactly human. What are they supposed to do?

 

[anais]

And where would they hide Neelix?

 

[exodus]

And where would they hide Neelix?

He could stay on the ship or look for an alien space station some where.

The point is, they still have a starship they can still live onboard or travel the galaxy for another planet. They still have the means to travel back & forth to Earth if they like.

 

[Mrs Paris]

why didn't they just do the slingshot around the sun thing and get back to their own time?

 

[kimc]

why didn't they just do the slingshot around the sun thing and get back to their own time?

Because the writers never watched Star Trek IV.

 

[SonicRanger]

If the crew went to another planet, they would simply be altering the timeline on that planet instead.

 

[SonicRanger]

why didn't they just do the slingshot around the sun thing and get back to their own time?

I figure that Spock's calculations and the slingshot maneuver are top secret, known only to very few people -- Starfleet doesn't want that knowledge to fall into the wrong hands.

 

[AlboOfBorg]

I dunno... I doubt they could've lived on Voyagers for decades, since I'm under the impression that starships need to be repaired at starbases and fleet yards every so often. It's amazing that Voyager lasted as long as it did without extensive repairs and upgrades, although I'm sure they "improvised" as much as they could.

 

[STIntergalactic]

They couldn't just travel forward in time because they had to undo the damage that was already done to the timeline, and also prevent earth from 'sploding. Once they took care of that, they were dragged back to the future and the delta quadrant.

 

[exodus]

I dunno... I doubt they could've lived on Voyagers for decades, since I'm under the impression that starships need to be repaired at starbases and fleet yards every so often. It's amazing that Voyager lasted as long as it did without extensive repairs and upgrades, although I'm sure they "improvised" as much as they could.

Voyager could land on planets surfaces to make repairs, they showed it in the ep. "Nightingale"

 

[Phillip Culley]

The trouble is that in 1996 humanity hadn't made contact with anyone, and the Federation and Starfleet were a few hundred years away from being formed. While humans were unable to locate Voyager in the atmosphere, I imagine were Voyager to travel to Vulcan then the Vulcans would identify Voyager in orbit, and the timeline would be screwed up

 

[exodus]

The trouble is that in 1996 humanity hadn't made contact with anyone, and the Federation and Starfleet were a few hundred years away from being formed. While humans were unable to locate Voyager in the atmosphere, I imagine were Voyager to travel to Vulcan then the Vulcans would identify Voyager in orbit, and the timeline would be screwed up

Yeah, I forgot.

According to ENT., Vulcan's don't believe in time travel.

 

[STIntergalactic]

The trouble is that in 1996 humanity hadn't made contact with anyone, and the Federation and Starfleet were a few hundred years away from being formed. While humans were unable to locate Voyager in the atmosphere, I imagine were Voyager to travel to Vulcan then the Vulcans would identify Voyager in orbit, and the timeline would be screwed up

So how did Kirk manage to get home all those times?

 

[exodus]

The trouble is that in 1996 humanity hadn't made contact with anyone, and the Federation and Starfleet were a few hundred years away from being formed. While humans were unable to locate Voyager in the atmosphere, I imagine were Voyager to travel to Vulcan then the Vulcans would identify Voyager in orbit, and the timeline would be screwed up

So how did Kirk manage to get home all those times?

Sexual favors.

 

[Kio]

So how did Kirk manage to get home all those times?

Sexual favors.

He seemed to hand those around pretty freely.

 

[Timo]

They couldn't just travel forward in time because they had to undo the damage that was already done to the timeline, and also prevent earth from 'sploding. Once they took care of that, they were dragged back to the future and the delta quadrant.

That seems the best explanation. Even if Kirk's slingshot trick was a well-kept secret (how did they explain ST4 to the general public, I wonder?), there have been so many instances of time travel near Earth in the previous shows that Janeway should have been aware of at least one type of time machine or technique that she could reach with her ship. And if everything else failed, she could have summoned Einstein and simply flown around at high impulse to kill the time relativistically, turning the centuries into months or days.

But as said, Janeway had little time to think of such things. And she didn't really consider hiding out in the far corners of Earth - only Chakotay and Torres did, when stuck without a starship or even a working shuttlecraft. Although admittedly Janeway at one point thought that the only time travel system she could access was Braxton's ship...

Timo Saloniemi

 

[erastus25]

why didn't they just do the slingshot around the sun thing and get back to their own time?

I figure that Spock's calculations and the slingshot maneuver are top secret, known only to very few people -- Starfleet doesn't want that knowledge to fall into the wrong hands.

That seems unlikely since Kirk openly refers to a time travel mission using the "light speed breakaway factor" (presumably the slingshot effect) in Assignment:Earth.

As for the alien members of the crew being stuck on Earth, I see no reason why the doctor couldn't just alter their appearance so they could fit in.

 

[SonicRanger]

why didn't they just do the slingshot around the sun thing and get back to their own time?

I figure that Spock's calculations and the slingshot maneuver are top secret, known only to very few people -- Starfleet doesn't want that knowledge to fall into the wrong hands.

That seems unlikely since Kirk openly refers to a time travel mission using the "light speed breakaway factor" (presumably the slingshot effect) in Assignment:Earth.

Yes, but Kirk and crew already knew about it, and A:E reminded them of the dangers of time travel -- consequently, we never saw or heard of any other historical missions back in time. The one Starfleet bureaucrat who still thought it was a good idea realized that it was too easy to royally screw up the past, especially if there are super-aliens out there already meddling in the past.