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Vulcans are from Earth

Canon is the collected works that comprise "Star Trek." These works can contain contradictions. Continuity is the episode to episode, series to series and film to film "facts" presented on screen. Something like when Kirk and Spock meant has never been addressed by the Canon nor the continuity of Star Trek, so its up for grabs until a series or film does so. OTH,Kirk's middle name has been addressed and is now established as being "Tiberius". (The previous initial of "R" having been over written) So to say that Kirk's middle name was "Jeffery" would be in error.
 
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Well, Enterprise never said that the planets were Romulus and Remus, just that the Romulans are called Romulans.
Cranston said a few posts up that Enterprise botched things up by having the term "Romulan" originate with the Romulans. That's what I was thinking and that's just as bad.

Vulcan: T'Khasi

Oh ye gods. To a Brit, that's... amusing.

Patrick Stewart would have a fit!

Khasi is another name for the toilet, and t'khasi would be a Yorkshireman (like Stewart) saying it... (t' means the, so "where's Spock,?" "He's on t'khasi!" which could mean he;s on Vulcan or he's on the john/head/bog/crapper..)
Really? Interesting stuff.

The fact that something is non-canonical doesn't mean it's automatically going to be contradicted. In fact, non-canonical data have made it into the canon...
Right. In Shane Johnson's guide, Vulcan orbits 40 Eridani A which is 16 light years from Earth. Then on Enterprise it was confirmed that Vulcan was 16 light years from Earth.
 
Well, Enterprise never said that the planets were Romulus and Remus, just that the Romulans are called Romulans.
Cranston said a few posts up that Enterprise botched things up by having the term "Romulan" originate with the Romulans. That's what I was thinking and that's just as bad.

Well, Vulcans and Ferengi would be just as bad as Romulans. Trek likes the idea of borrowing words from Earth to make species names.

Romulan is at least slightly different from Romulus.
 
And its the folks who "overthink" this stuff in the name of "realism" that suck the fun out of Star Trek.
 
Sometimes you just have to let the art flow over you. Spock is from Vulcan that's the name of the planet, end of story. Romulans are from Romulus end of story. All the back flips and contortions to make it fit some sense of "Realism" are not needed. The names were chosen for a reason. To help the viewer get an idea of where these aliens are from. At best strike it up to coincidence and move on.
 
Hypothetically, planets in the future, that are part of the federation become global states and are named after the inhabitants of said World. Earth remains as Earth due to Human arrogance and the unwillingness to change. Or until Earth itself becomes a global state. Or the title 'Planet Human' didn't go down well.
 
Cranston said a few posts up that Enterprise botched things up by having the term "Romulan" originate with the Romulans.

To be sure, it originated with the Vulcans. In ENT "Minefield", Hoshi Sato distinctly heard the adversaries say "Rumalin", but T'Pol corrected her that they should properly be called Romulan instead. So clearly, Rumalin is the native name for their star empire (although not necessarily for their species or home planet), while Romulan is how Vulcans want to call them, at least when speaking English.

Perhaps "being raised by beasts" is something the Vulcans want to associate with their lost brethren, and it thus is a nice coincidence that the word Rumalin sounds a bit like the common human term for "raised by wolves". The Vulcans exploit this coincidence when speaking English, even if the native Vulcan word for "raised by wolves" (the one that, say, Spock actually says before the UT kicks in) is in fact Harunnaru.

It might be worth noting that the Romulans are self-made men. They left their home and invented an all-new culture for themselves, supposedly in a star system that did not come with any pre-existing names. Their proper names thus would be likely to have meaning, instead of just being random sounds eroded to meaninglessness by tens of thousands of years of history. Diane Duane's Rihannsu call themselves that because the word has a meaning: in English, they would be calling themselves the Declared. "Rumalin" is no doubt another meaning-laden word in the Romulan language, probably translatable to an English term but instead perverted to "Romulan" by a quirk of history.

...Indeed, perhaps the direct translation of Rumalin would reveal too much to the Earthlings, which is why T'Pol quickly steps in with her insistence that the proper name is something else again...

Timo Saloniemi
 
Cranston said a few posts up that Enterprise botched things up by having the term "Romulan" originate with the Romulans.

To be sure, it originated with the Vulcans. In ENT "Minefield", Hoshi Sato distinctly heard the adversaries say "Rumalin", but T'Pol corrected her that they should properly be called Romulan instead. So clearly, Rumalin is the native name for their star empire (although not necessarily for their species or home planet), while Romulan is how Vulcans want to call them, at least when speaking English.

Perhaps "being raised by beasts" is something the Vulcans want to associate with their lost brethren, and it thus is a nice coincidence that the word Rumalin sounds a bit like the common human term for "raised by wolves". The Vulcans exploit this coincidence when speaking English, even if the native Vulcan word for "raised by wolves" (the one that, say, Spock actually says before the UT kicks in) is in fact Harunnaru.

It might be worth noting that the Romulans are self-made men. They left their home and invented an all-new culture for themselves, supposedly in a star system that did not come with any pre-existing names. Their proper names thus would be likely to have meaning, instead of just being random sounds eroded to meaninglessness by tens of thousands of years of history. Diane Duane's Rihannsu call themselves that because the word has a meaning: in English, they would be calling themselves the Declared. "Rumalin" is no doubt another meaning-laden word in the Romulan language, probably translatable to an English term but instead perverted to "Romulan" by a quirk of history.

...Indeed, perhaps the direct translation of Rumalin would reveal too much to the Earthlings, which is why T'Pol quickly steps in with her insistence that the proper name is something else again...

Timo Saloniemi

Of course it's possible to retcon the inconsistency -- that's part of our bread and butter as Trek fans ;) -- but it was so much more direct and sensible before Enterprise mucked with it.
 
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