I don't get it.

[exodus]

in this case it doesn't matter since the chakotay who ate it was a hologram in Seven's program

but most of the mater used in the replicator system is most likely recyled human waste

It's energy, silly.

nope, the repliator systems works by rearanging atoms in matter. It can't just create energy from nothing. There is a matter reserve that the replicator draws from and turns it into anything the person wants. And yes most likely part of that matter reserve is poo

Yes but when the replicator breaks matter down into atoms, that's energy which is being stored.

 

[Mrs Paris]

It's energy, silly.

nope, the repliator systems works by rearanging atoms in matter. It can't just create energy from nothing. There is a matter reserve that the replicator draws from and turns it into anything the person wants. And yes most likely part of that matter reserve is poo

Yes but when the replicator breaks matter down into atoms, that's energy which is being stored.

so it still needs some bulk matter to use

 

[exodus]

And yes most likely part of that matter reserve is poo

Where do you get that from?

Didn't Archer mention it on ENT.?

Besides, where would a Starship dump it's waste if the Federation doesn't believe in poluting? So waste would be broken down into energy, just like a replicator and recycled.

 

[exodus]

nope, the repliator systems works by rearanging atoms in matter. It can't just create energy from nothing. There is a matter reserve that the replicator draws from and turns it into anything the person wants. And yes most likely part of that matter reserve is poo

Yes but when the replicator breaks matter down into atoms, that's energy which is being stored.

so it still needs some bulk matter to use

Yes I know, I wasn't saying anything otherwise.

 

[Mrs Paris]

And yes most likely part of that matter reserve is poo

Where do you get that from?

Didn't Archer mention it on ENT.?

Besides, where would a Starship dump it's waste if the Federation doesn't believe in poluting? So waste would be broken down into energy, just like a replicator and recycled.

how could Archer have mentioned it when they didn't have replicators.

and if they did have replicators why didn't Kirk have them

 

[exodus]

Where do you get that from?

Didn't Archer mention it on ENT.?

Besides, where would a Starship dump it's waste if the Federation doesn't believe in poluting? So waste would be broken down into energy, just like a replicator and recycled.

how could Archer have mentioned it when they didn't have replicators.

and if they did have replicators why didn't Kirk have them

Remember the ENT. ep. where they come across a Space Station that is "alive". The ship had replicators, it was the first time they encountered the technology.(Another one of ENT. timeline mistakes) Well afterthat, I remember him mentioning "recycling poo into a pair of boots."

 

[Mrs Paris]

Didn't Archer mention it on ENT.?

Besides, where would a Starship dump it's waste if the Federation doesn't believe in poluting? So waste would be broken down into energy, just like a replicator and recycled.

how could Archer have mentioned it when they didn't have replicators.

and if they did have replicators why didn't Kirk have them

Remember the ENT. ep. where they come across a Space Station that is "alive". The ship had replicators, it was the first time they encountered the technology.(Another one of ENT. timeline mistakes) Well afterthat, I remember him mentioning "recycling poo into a pair of boots."

I've avoided Ent, but I do know that episode because of who voiced the space stations computer

 

[Lynx]

Two words: Borg baby.

Borg + baby = recently assimilated

Recently assimilated + Near by home world = Voyager bringing baby home. <- Chell

Okay, then maybe you can tell me whether Chakotay is a vegetarian or not.

Do we know for sure that Chakotay is a vegetarian?

OK, he did mention that he was to Riley in "Unity" but then he ate meat in "Human Error".

Maybe his comments to Riley was a joke since meat wasn't available on that planet.

 

[Mrs Paris]

Borg + baby = recently assimilated

Recently assimilated + Near by home world = Voyager bringing baby home. <- Chell

Okay, then maybe you can tell me whether Chakotay is a vegetarian or not.

Do we know for sure that Chakotay is a vegetarian?

OK, he did mention that he was to Riley in "Unity" but then he ate meat in "Human Error".

Maybe his comments to Riley was a joke since meat wasn't available on that planet.

that's interesting...Human Error was in the seventh season, which you have said several times that you haven't watched

The chakotay that ate meat in Human Error was the holographic Chakotay from Seven's program

 

[kimc]

Borg + baby = recently assimilated

Recently assimilated + Near by home world = Voyager bringing baby home. <- Chell

Okay, then maybe you can tell me whether Chakotay is a vegetarian or not.

Do we know for sure that Chakotay is a vegetarian?

OK, he did mention that he was to Riley in "Unity" but then he ate meat in "Human Error".

Maybe his comments to Riley was a joke since meat wasn't available on that planet.

I think he was a vegetarian. Even after "Unity" whenever he and Janeway had dinner it was vegetarian dishes like "Vegetable Biryani". Even Seska mentioned his favorite meal was mushroom soup.

 

[Lynx]

Okay, then maybe you can tell me whether Chakotay is a vegetarian or not.

Do we know for sure that Chakotay is a vegetarian?

OK, he did mention that he was to Riley in "Unity" but then he ate meat in "Human Error".

Maybe his comments to Riley was a joke since meat wasn't available on that planet.

that's interesting...Human Error was in the seventh season, which you have said several times that you haven't watched

The chakotay that ate meat in Human Error was the holographic Chakotay from Seven's program

I haven't watched "Human Error" but I can read!

And it was written in a comment above that he did eat meat in that episode. No one mentioned anything about any holographic Chakotay.

 

[teya]

Chakotay ate replicated meat in "The Void" when Seven was cooking the gourmet feast at the beginning of the episode.

 

[Michael]

And yes most likely part of that matter reserve is poo

Where do you get that from?

Didn't Archer mention it on ENT.?

Besides, where would a Starship dump it's waste if the Federation doesn't believe in poluting? So waste would be broken down into energy, just like a replicator and recycled.

They did NOT have replicators on ENT.

Regarding the vegetarian issue: Well, of course we can find a way to rationalize it. But I guess the point is that – let's be honest – the writers simply forgot about it. Or they didn't care. And that was just a moment where I thought they should take their characters a tad bit more seriously. I mean, they created them. Why can't they be consistent with them?

 

[Mrs Paris]

Do we know for sure that Chakotay is a vegetarian?

OK, he did mention that he was to Riley in "Unity" but then he ate meat in "Human Error".

Maybe his comments to Riley was a joke since meat wasn't available on that planet.

that's interesting...Human Error was in the seventh season, which you have said several times that you haven't watched

The chakotay that ate meat in Human Error was the holographic Chakotay from Seven's program

I haven't watched "Human Error" but I can read!

And it was written in a comment above that he did eat meat in that episode. No one mentioned anything about any holographic Chakotay.

The only time in that episode that Chakotay was seen eating meat was when it was a holographic Chakotay. But you haven't seen the episode so you wouldn't know...maybe you should watch it

 

[exodus]

No one mentioned anything about any holographic Chakotay.

Mrs. Paris did on the page previous to this one. I also used her quote of it at the top of the page.


NCC-1701, I explained on this very page where replicatiors were discovered by ENT. on this very page. Yes, replicators were shown on ENT. series.

 

[Smiley]

No one mentioned anything about any holographic Chakotay.

Mrs. Paris did on the page previous to this one. I also used her quote of it at the top of the page.


NCC-1701, I explained on this very page where replicatiors were discovered by ENT. on this very page. Yes, replicators were shown on ENT. series.

Yes, they were shown on the bizarre space station, not on the NX-01. I fail to see any contradiction of expected technology levels there. Just becuase Archer and his crew saw Vulcan space vessels with Warp 7 engines does not mean that they could recreate them out of thin air. The same idea applies to replicators.

 

[Michael]

NCC-1701, I explained on this very page where replicatiors were discovered by ENT. on this very page. Yes, replicators were shown on ENT. series.

Yes, I've seen that. But they still don't have replicators on the Enterprise.

 

[exodus]

No one mentioned anything about any holographic Chakotay.

Mrs. Paris did on the page previous to this one. I also used her quote of it at the top of the page.


NCC-1701, I explained on this very page where replicatiors were discovered by ENT. on this very page. Yes, replicators were shown on ENT. series.

Yes, they were shown on the bizarre space station, not on the NX-01. I fail to see any contradiction of expected technology levels there. Just becuase Archer and his crew saw Vulcan space vessels with Warp 7 engines does not mean that they could recreate them out of thin air. The same idea applies to replicators.

What are you even talking about?


We aren't even talking about if ENT. had or could adapt replicators. The topic at hand was: "Do replicator recycle poo & did Chakotay eat real or replicated meat." The only reason ENT. was mentioned here was because Archer in passing mentions that they recycle poo into useful material in his time. That's it.

 

[exodus]

NCC-1701, I explained on this very page where replicatiors were discovered by ENT. on this very page. Yes, replicators were shown on ENT. series.

Yes, I've seen that. But they still don't have replicators on the Enterprise.

Man, I know that. I never implied anything otherwise.

 

[Michael]

NCC-1701, I explained on this very page where replicatiors were discovered by ENT. on this very page. Yes, replicators were shown on ENT. series.

Yes, I've seen that. But they still don't have replicators on the Enterprise.

Man, I know that. I never implied anything otherwise.

Well, regarding the question if they ever said on ENT that they recycle excrements into something else, I found this on Memory Alpha: There's a Bio-matter resequencer (which "sterilizes and breaks down waste matter for reuse in manufacturing boots, storage containers, and other neccessities") and a Protein resequencer (which "transforms bulk protein matter into a variety of foods ranging from potatoes to ice cream").