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How About A TNG Reboot As The Next Movie?

What would you ever do for a story? 09 Trek worked because we've never actually seen the TOS crew come together. We did for Next Gen. So what does that leave to draw in audiences? Next Gen doesn't even really have a memorable villain like TOS had Khan. Lore? The Borg Queen?
 
I suppose you'd assemble them sooner for a different reason, if it's an alternate timeline/reality. Suggesting the senior staff in question is (always) fated to meet, cooperate, and live (reasonably) happily ever after, barring mirror/personality changes.
 
Dukhat said:
The casual moviegoing audience in the 2020’s doesn’t give a shit about TNG.
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When the last two Avatar films came out, even in the years leading up to them, there were think pieces about whether or not Avatar had had any lasting cultural impact. Sure, it brought in a bazillion dollars, and then it went away. The only people who cared were probably James Cameron and Sam Worthington.

One of the ongoing discussions I've been on the edges of for the past twenty-five years is whether or not Robert Heinlein has any staying power and whether he'll be read in twenty years. I would argue on the first, no, and on the second, who's reading him now?

Peter Jackson's The Hobbit trilogy grossed three billion dollars, but the only time anyone talks about it it's to say that it shouldn't have been three films.

Washington Irving was one of the most popular American writers of his time. Quick, name of one his works besides "Sleepy Hollow" and "Rip Van Winkle."

I bring these up because they point to something I think about with Star Trek, specifically the sequel series. (Berman era and beyond.) Just because something was popular in its time doesn't mean it lasts.

There's the quote about Next Generation catching "lighting in a bottle" a second time, but did it, really? It was hugely popular in its time, but what lasting influence did it have? The Borg? "Resistance is futile"? "Make it so"?

The HD remastering was met with so much indifference that CBS lost money.

What was commonly called the most popular and mainstream of the modern Trek series had its sequel series consigned to a streaming walled garden.

I like an expansive Star Trek. It's a big universe. There's a lot that can be done in it. There are many things to explore, and I hope Star Trek as a concept stays healthy enough for them to be explored. But these side stories may not -- and probably won't -- last, and that's okay. They don't have to. They had their moment, and the moment has gone.
 
Laura Cynthia Chambers said:
I suppose you'd assemble them sooner for a different reason, if it's an alternate timeline/reality. Suggesting the senior staff in question is (always) fated to meet, cooperate, and live (reasonably) happily ever after, barring mirror/personality changes.
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So, just do exactly what Abrams did with the TOS characters, only with the TNG characters? Been there, done that. Just make a new crew.
 
How about doing a proper version of Voyager. Not a reboot with the same characters, a new series that runs with the Voyager concept properly instead of hitting the reset button each episode. New starship and crew stranded far from home, maybe another galaxy, trying to get back, struggling with limited resources and ship repairs.
 
Sketcher said:
09 Trek worked because we've never actually seen the TOS crew come together.
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But we know that's not how the TOS crew came together; if they did one mission together and split up for a while afterward, there wouldn't necessarily be that cohesiveness of a crew familiar with each other. The TOS crew was assembled over time; some holdovers from Pike's crew, some came with Kirk, some were added later. With TNG, nearly all of them were crew members together as of episode 1.
 
Frontis said:
I would prefer a DS9 reboot.
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I don't see a reason to redo DS9. It executed its story and characters well the first time.

Something like Voyager, which misused and, at times, forgot its premise is a much more promising show to reboot. There's a ton of untapped potential that a new showrunner and writers' room could realize.
 
It had a pre-existing 24th century Alpha Quadrant/Federation status quo to contrast with the setting of the Delta Quadrant. If you don't know what home (i.e. the current situation) looks like by comparison, you might as well be the next system over and stranded on the side of the road as a whole quadrant away.
 
I don’t really see any need for a TNG reboot, unless it was actually a TNG spinoff of some kind (“Oh, you’ve retired the rebuilt D? Fine, we completely new characters are stealing it and taking off on new adventures of our own!” or whatever). You want a reboot Star Trek movie? Just dig out Silverberg’s The Billion Year Voyage and replace the original ship & crew with new ones unique to the movies, so the audience doesn’t have to have ever seen anything before.
 
Firebird said:
I don't see a reason to redo DS9. It executed its story and characters well the first time.

Something like Voyager, which misused and, at times, forgot its premise is a much more promising show to reboot. There's a ton of untapped potential that a new showrunner and writers' room could realize.
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They could easily take the base concept of Voyager and rework it into a new ship and a new crew. Like a ship that was shunted off into the border of the Gamma/Delta Quadrant, whose Captain decides to meander over to the Bajoran Wormhole to get home. Over the course of the journey, we get to discover new life & new civilizations - plus we would get to see what happened to the Dominion post-Odo rejoining.
 
I do see a reboot or a reimagination. Not the "prime" timeline and not the JJVerse. A new take on the Trekverse. There might still be a Kirk and Spock, Picard and Riker, etc. but the universe, timeline, and personal destinies of the characters being open ended. Kirk should still be Kirk in a recognizeable way. Same with Picard, otherwise just create new characters, but living in an open ended new timeline.
 
Riley said:
I'm calling it now: the next movie will be a reboot of TNG that isn't set in the future of the Abramsverse.

This would actually be an interesting way to go with the franchise. If the movies are successful, they can expand the 24th century every few years. A new series, meanwhile, could redefine the birth of the Federation, maybe beginning with the first true Federation starship with a crew of humans, Vulcans, Tellarites, and Andorians. That would also allow for the TOS era, which has been revisited more now than any other, to get a rest for a few years.

My cast for a TNG reboot film:

Picard: James McAvoy

Riker: Liam Hemsworth

Data: Charles Melton

Geordi: Kingsley Ben-Adir (not yet Chief Engineer, but assists the Chief.

Troi: Lilly Collins

Worf: Winston Duke (not yet Chief of Security)

Yar: Samara Weaving

Bev Crusher: Rachel Brosnahan

Wesley Crusher: Iain Armitage

Lt. Jae (helmsan): not sure yet, but it would be a cameo from a big-name actress

Q: Tom Hiddleston
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would prefer a loyal remake of tng. scripts remain the same, actors look the part, bad episode are excluded. modern effects and more appealing enterprise interiors.
 
Catboots said:
How about doing a proper version of Voyager. Not a reboot with the same characters, a new series that runs with the Voyager concept properly instead of hitting the reset button each episode. New starship and crew stranded far from home, maybe another galaxy, trying to get back, struggling with limited resources and ship repairs.
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Too bad that wasn't Disco - spore drive gets them stuck, breaks, no way to fix it, long way home. lol.
 
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The Wormhole said:
Even if a hypothetical reboot of TNG were to happen, I imagine they'd probably try to have things set up more like the original plan for TNG, specifically with Picard as the intellectual leader and Riker as the action hero.

They're certainly not going to have Geordi as anything other than the chief engineer, as that is how everyone remembers the character. After all, the Abrams movies disregarded Sulu being an astrophysicist in WNMHGB and stuck him at the helm right away, I will not be surprised if SNW does the same thing. It's possible the first movie of a TNG reboot might start off with Tasha Yar as chief of security, though I imagine she'd be killed before the halfway point with Worf stepping in to take over security.
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Am I really the only one that preferred him as the cool, experienced "blind pilot" archetype, in a position on the bridge to banter with Data and Wesley, where his special ability could be used in a more forward, action oriented way, on away teams, dealing with what is literally right in front of them, than the technobabbling, nerdy, socially awkard, dorky, sometimes rude engineer?
 
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