Except for finding reverseBe trekkin' up that road
Be trekkin' up that hill
With no problems....![]()
Except for finding reverseBe trekkin' up that road
Be trekkin' up that hill
With no problems....![]()
That I’ll certainly agree with. What, a more “truckin’” version of the theme will attract more viewers, somehow?Now a criticism for season 3 would be why on Earth did they make an upbeat remix of the theme tune for this season?
It's the same season they finally added "Star Trek" to the title. So yeah, I'd say they were pretty desperate to figure out ways to bring viewers back.That I’ll certainly agree with. What, a more “truckin’” version of the theme will attract more viewers, somehow?
They shortened the credit sequence for that season and in order to fit the theme into the compressed timeslot, a new mix had to be done, which had the unfortunate side effect of sounding more upbeat, completely at odds with the more serious tone of the season.Now a criticism for season 3 would be why on Earth did they make an upbeat remix of the theme tune for this season?
Interesting, didn’t know that about Behr. But at least adding “Star Trek” made sense since, after all, it was.It's the same season they finally added "Star Trek" to the title. So yeah, I'd say they were pretty desperate to figure out ways to bring viewers back.
Another way they tried was to court Ira Steven Behr to come on board. Which did not go well, as Ira was very honest about what he thought needed to change, and they were ultimately not amenable.
Quote from Behr in 2004:Interesting, didn’t know that about Behr.
That’s unfortunate. For all that of course it had flaws, I liked Enterprise, a lot. What changes I’d have added would mostly have been expansions on elements already present, not some wholesale reworking.Quote from Behr in 2004:
"Rick called me up, it was his initiative. He asked me had I seen ENTERPRISE, I told him no. He asked if I could look at it--they were thinking maybe of stepping back and that 'this be another DS9 experience,' whatever that meant. I didn’t really think it over in terms of what were the chances of that reality happening again.
They sent me the three shows, I went in, had a two hour meeting with Rick and Brannon. It was a very cordial meeting, but everything I said I am sure they did not like hearing. I would not liked to have heard it if someone came into my office and talked as bluntly as I was talking to them.
Though again, it was done all cordially. After it was over I am sure they were uncomfortable, I was very uncomfortable, we shook hands, Rick said, 'Well, all interesting stuff, we’ll think it over,' and I never heard from him again."
Quote from Braga in 2014:
"We brought Ira Steven Behr in. I was so desperate to bring in an additional high-level person [...] I needed help. And we brought Ira in.
He came in to the office and he shit all over the show. I mean, he shit on the show like I've never heard. Like...all the crabby internet stuff balled into one nuclear weapon.
He fucking blasted the show. Hated the characters, hated the concept, thought it was a piece of shit. And it was like, one hell of a job interview.
And uh, I don't even know why he came to be honest. But at the same time I saw [...] some of his critiques were not invalid. I think he was basically saying 'I wanna come in and shake this place up', and I think at that point Rick and I weren't quite looking for that level of shake-up.
But I didn't begrudge him for it, it was kind of entertaining. I'm appreciative to him for doing that. It wasn't pleasant, it was kind of shocking, but I appreciated it."
There was too much Xindi stuff in season 3 just like there was too much Borg stuff in the last 2 Voyager sasons.I've heard from multiple people that Season 3 of Enterprise is often viewed as "Bush Trek," or that it's heavily right-leaning or something along those lines. I just can't say I've ever seen it that way.
I'll repeat what I said earlier today in response to @Lord Garth on the matter in a different thread. I figured it might make for an interesting conversation in a more appropriate location.
Yes, the Xindi attack on Earth is an obvious allegory for 9/11. That's not really in dispute. But people who stop there are ignoring where the story actually goes.
The entire point of the season is that Archer and the crew begin with understandable anger and a desire for justice, only to gradually discover that the Xindi themselves are victims of manipulation. They weren't acting out of simple hatred or blind aggression; they had been deceived into believing humanity was an existential threat. Once the truth comes out, many of the Xindi become our allies, and together they stop the real villains behind the conflict.
If the Xindi are meant to parallel Muslims after 9/11, then the message isn't "go get them." It's almost the exact opposite. The season argues against painting an entire people as the enemy and instead encourages understanding who is actually responsible for creating fear and conflict.
The arc repeatedly challenges Archer's assumptions. He wrestles with revenge, makes questionable decisions under pressure, and ultimately succeeds not through overwhelming military force, but through diplomacy, empathy, and uncovering the truth. That's a far more nuanced message than simply "America good, enemy bad."
If anything, Season 3 is a cautionary tale about fear, misinformation, and the dangers of demonizing an entire civilization because of the actions of a few. That doesn't strike me as a particularly right-wing message. It strikes me as a very Star Trek message.
The Xindi were the entire point of the season. It remains, in my opinion, Star Trek's only truly successful example of serialized storytelling over the course of an entire season.There was too much Xindi stuff in season 3 just like there was too much Borg stuff in the last 2 Voyager sasons.
I'm not going to argue with that at all. It was certainly a better attempt than most anything Discovery tried to do, and up there with DS9's Dominion arc. Easier to digest because it was contained to a single season and I thought it flowed pretty nicely.The Xindi were the entire point of the season. It remains, in my opinion, Star Trek's only truly successful example of serialized storytelling over the course of an entire season.
I'd argue Prodigy is right up there, and they nailed a forty-episode arc across its two seasons.The Xindi were the entire point of the season. It remains, in my opinion, Star Trek's only truly successful example of serialized storytelling over the course of an entire season.
That's fair.I'd argue Prodigy is right up there, and they nailed a forty-episode arc across its two seasons.
But those were mini-arcs, not one long season arc. And yes the Vulcan Trilogy was an amazing trilogy for Enterprise. I liked it just as much as I liked DS9's CIrcle Trilogy, and I liked that a lot too.DISCO S4 is a little bit bloated, but overall tells a pretty great story that I think is the most true to the "spirit of Trek" than the franchise had been in a long time at that point.
I said DISCO S4, not ENT S4.But those were mini-arcs, not one long season arc. And yes the Vulcan Trilogy was an amazing trilogy for Enterprise. I liked it just as much as I liked DS9's CIrcle Trilogy, and I liked that a lot too.
That's an understatement. It was a great story. It also could have been told in half as many episodes and cut out that entire middle stretch of the season where nothing seemed to happen.DISCO S4 is a little bit bloated
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