Jellico was an asshole... but he got the job done.
Ronny Cox proves the old rule they say about actors, where the nicest guys always end up being the perfect actors to play assholes.
Though, to be honest, Jellico might be one of Cox's more pleasant characters, mostly by virtue of not being an actual villain.
Though, to be honest, Jellico might be one of Cox's more pleasant characters, mostly by virtue of not being an actual villain.
Jellico was exactly like a few officers I had to deal with back in the day: completely full of themselves and loved throwing their weight around against "the little people ". You just smile, say yes sir, while in the back of your mind thinking "God, what I wouldnt give for five minutes alone in a room with no uniform and no consequences with this @$$hole."
Colonel Potter: Colonels. You can't trust any of 'em. They're just THIS far from making general. They can taste those stars. They'll do anything to get 'em. Never mind if they don't deserve 'em, if they don't know their brass from their elbows. Captains and majors are okay. They're too far away. They don't have to make points. And generals usually relax once they've made it... although I had one in the cavalry ordered all horses corked before parades.
You just described one of the XOs I served (put up) with on the Nimitz for almost 3 years. His name was Richard Macke, and the biggest Dick I ever had the displeasure to be around. The cruise book photo that shows him says it all:
The outgoing XO, that no one wants to be around, and hates everyone else.
In the same cruise book is the photo of his replacement, Mr. Parcells. I served with him for a little over a year before my enlistment was up. He was a real breath of fresh air.
The only thing good about the first XO, is most sailors on the ship, including me, thought it was best to leave immediately, rather than reenlist and possibly get stuck with another one like Dick. Admiral Dick Macke being himself, put his foot in his own mouth, was relieved of his command, and later was caught having an extramarital affair and was forced to retire minus two stars, to the rank of Rear Admiral upper half.
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I don’t believe teenagers will still say ‘bro’ more than a thousand years from now. It feels too much as if the show is about young people nowadays. They could’ve invented another word or something. I’ve just started watching, so I’ll wait with any more opinions.
They won't say "Hello," "tea cup," or "bellyache" either.
Well, interesting that you’ve chosen that specific example, because, looking it up, the usage of the word “bro” in English as a short form of “brother” actually dates back to circa 1530. So seeing that it already survived half a millennium, I personally don’t have much trouble imagining that it might still be in use another thousand years down the line.
Because, really, that’s what it is. They’ve been making the show for a 2020s audience about 2020s people. It’s for us to understand and for us to relate to. It’s not some realistic extrapolation of what the world of a thousand years into the future will be like, it’s just a fictional world to entertain us, move us or make us think. And that’s not a new thing for Star Trek, that’s actually what it’s always been.
Personally I would find it super weird if instead of using contemporary youth phrases they would use made-up alternatives meant to sound futuristic.
Frell that felgercarb. Made-up slang is always lame.
Even "Herbert?"
Especially Herbert.
I admit that made-up slang can be a good thing if you deliberately want to create more distance between the world you’re presenting and the world the audience knows. Or if you want to have strong-sounding curse words but can’t get them past the censors, I guess. Either way, it should be used sparingly, because it tends to pull you out of a story.
It should also be noted that if they were actually attempting to extrapolate a realistic version of future English, we probably shouldn’t understand any of it.
It should also be noted that if they were actually attempting to extrapolate a realistic version of future English, we probably shouldn’t understand any of it.
Using one of the worst episodes in the franchise ("THE WAY TO EDEN") as an example us hardly a point in favor of the issue.
It's real now though.
Welcome to the standards of television since the beginning of the medium.
You're not watching a documentary.
The English language will be unrecognisable in 1,000 years. It's the universal translator in our TVs that lets us understand the strange future people.
"Bro" is probably "Sixsevenyeet" or something
Allow me to now act as though I'm some sort of an expert in how linguistic evolve over centuries and millennia with a long ass rant detailing what Bro is most likely to evolve into, based on system which only makes sense to me and which I will not be explaining.
One of the reason it's so bad is writers trying to invent future slang.
It's not a little reason. It's a big tonal and stylistic fuck-up, and the main thing people mock about the episode.
There aren't many Anthony Burgesses out there.* TV and movie writers might get away with one or two words in dialogue. And if they do, those words become nothing more than in-group humor for the show's hardcore fans. Not worth the bother.
*Okay, there's not even the one, anymore.
