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Evidence of SNW being a possible alternate timeline from TOS

i still think that strange new worlds is from alternate timeline because most of the stuff thats happened in strange new worlds was kinda never mentioned on the original series

and at the same time most of the characters from strange new worlds kinda was never mentioned on the original series and or they kinda never showed up on the original series
 
Why on earth would they want a tiny television-sized viewscreen when we get so many amazing shots with the huge ones we've had since 2009?

The rest is personal preference but I doubt there is a director on the planet who would want a 40" screen on the front of the bridge when we have the technology we do today.

A giant window is pretty dumb when there are so many hostile species out there.

Then you have very different memories than I, as I recall after that episode aired there were very vocal complaints about them faithfully recreating the TOS aesthetic and expecting us to believe it was more advanced than what we'd been seeing on Enterprise "when it clearly isn't." We even had a thread in our own Enterprise forum back in the day of people wishing they had created an updated 23rd century look which took real world technological development and what was seen in Enterprise's 22nd century into account and made it look "more properly advanced."

And yes, there were even those who tried saying the fact that In a Mirror Darkly was trying to present 1960s aesthetics as futuristic as being the ultimate proof Enterprise was in an alternate timeline. Rinse and repeat, all this has happened before it will happen again.

Im guessing we were talking to different people.


Well, that’s not fair bringing facts into the discussion!

Its just a fun discussion. Not all people thought the same way about "in a mirror darkly". It was quite a popular episode.
 
i still think that strange new worlds is from alternate timeline because most of the stuff thats happened in strange new worlds was kinda never mentioned on the original series

and at the same time most of the characters from strange new worlds kinda was never mentioned on the original series and or they kinda never showed up on the original series
Most?


Pike: Spock's first captain, shown in an episode.
Una: Pike's first officer, named Number One, and shown.
M'Benga: staff physician in TOS.
George Kirk: mentioned in passing and seen once.
Uhura: regular secondary character on TOS.
Scotty: regular secondary character on TOS.
Spock: main cast on TOS.
Chanel: secondary character on TOS, if not tertiary.
Mitchell: new
La'an: new
Ortegas: new
Pelia: new.

8/12 are in TOS in some way.

giant window is pretty dumb when there are so many hostile species out there.
The bridge on top is dumb for the same reason. Hasn't stopped STARFLEET at all.
 
i still think that strange new worlds is from alternate timeline because most of the stuff thats happened in strange new worlds was kinda never mentioned on the original series
In 79 episodes of the Original Series, how often did they reference past adventures?
A giant window is pretty dumb when there are so many hostile species out there.
In a universe where ships are lobbing antimatter weapons at each other, whether a ship has a window on the bridge makes little difference if the shields go down.

If you're going to complain about a bridge window, I hope you also complain about the bridge being located on top of the saucer instead of deep within the ship.
 
i still think that strange new worlds is from alternate timeline because most of the stuff thats happened in strange new worlds was kinda never mentioned on the original series

Absence of evidence isn't evidence of absence. I treat it as an alternate timeline because it has been sixty years and I can't see the characters as presented in SNW evolving into their TOS counterparts.

I would've been far more excited for SNW if it wasn't connected to TOS. That I didn't already know the future of pretty much all the characters I watched from the original show.
 
i still think that strange new worlds is from alternate timeline because most of the stuff thats happened in strange new worlds was kinda never mentioned on the original series

and at the same time most of the characters from strange new worlds kinda was never mentioned on the original series and or they kinda never showed up on the original series
You do know the dash-nothing was around for 20 years before TOS started of course things are going to happen to it that aren't going to be brought it in the small windows we get into the character's lives. Maybe if it was a big brother style thing and we saw their 24/7 lives something might come up but it just won't be relevant all the time.

Other shows also have characters they never mention again. TNG went though 4 chief engineers before Geordi and none of them were ever mentioned again.

You can probably count on your fingers the combined references to Wesley, Yar and Pulaski once they're gone.
 
You do know the dash-nothing was around for 20 years before TOS started of course things are going to happen to it that aren't going to be brought it in the small windows we get into the character's lives. Maybe if it was a big brother style thing and we saw their 24/7 lives something might come up but it just won't be relevant all the time.

Other shows also have characters they never mention again. TNG went though 4 chief engineers before Geordi and none of them were ever mentioned again.

You can probably count on your fingers the combined references to Wesley, Yar and Pulaski once they're gone.
I still miss Lt. Commander Giotto.
 
i still think that strange new worlds is from alternate timeline because most of the stuff thats happened in strange new worlds was kinda never mentioned on the original series

and at the same time most of the characters from strange new worlds kinda was never mentioned on the original series and or they kinda never showed up on the original series
Do you know what a prequel is?
 
i still think that strange new worlds is from alternate timeline because most of the stuff thats happened in strange new worlds was kinda never mentioned on the original series

and at the same time most of the characters from strange new worlds kinda was never mentioned on the original series and or they kinda never showed up on the original series
That's not how it works. If those were the rules. Then TWOK takes place in an alternate timeline because Carol*, David and Saavik were never mentioned in TOS.

*Counting down to a mention of the blonde lab tech,
 
If you're going to complain about a bridge window, I hope you also complain about the bridge being located on top of the saucer instead of deep within the ship.
Which was something Andrew Probert tried to fix early in production on TNG until Gene and Bob Justman said the audience needed to have a reference point for the Bridge when they look at the ship.

To say nothing about the Enterprise model in WNMHGB having a visible window on the front of the Bridge.
 
And if an alternate timeline WAS created when, say, the "Shockwave" 2-parter of ENT gets that colony destroyed then that just means everything that follows ENT is in the same changed timeline, including TOS.
 
Once in the wild, it is up to personal interpretation.
But some people don't seem to be able to differentiate personal interpretation from declarations of fact. If only more people could just accept how they feel and what they headcanon is just that and only for themselves...
 
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