Right, because all that obvious polystyrene looked exactly like real ice...
Sounds to me like a case of nostalgia playing a part in your opinion. Not that there’s anything wrong with that. Personally, I try to look at things on their own merit. I quite enjoyed Superman 2025. It felt like a comic book. Which is kind of what they were going for.
It is. It's simplistic, outdated, and assumes that all the highfalutin' accountants employed by mega corporations are just on the payroll to make the offices look less empty.
They weren't "Realistic" at all, you're just saying that because they didn't have CGI or truly alien looking aliens.
I might allow that the Metropolis scenes have more textural “reality” in Donner’s film than in Gunn’s. They feel very much like a 1970s urban center, specifically New York, which is what they were (or at least a familiar movie version of same, with an atmosphere not dissimilar to many non-fantasy films of the period).
But again, realism isn’t what Gunn was going for, nor is it inherently a virtue.
But again, realism isn’t what Gunn was going for, nor is it inherently a virtue.
As is Glenn Ford in the first of them. Perhaps a shout-out to Terence Stamp for the second might be warranted.....perhaps even Robert Vau-------no, I won't try that.
Well it made a profit after it left theaters. A profit is a profit . It looks like it made a profit of about 100 to 125 mil. Not "Michael" numbers but it is a profit. Enough to fund half to a third of the second film.
Thank goodness. I was really holding my breath on that because usually when a new regime comes in they like to clean house and start fresh.
Amazing that some are still arguing over this. IMO that debate is over. Superman 2025 was such a success that a Sequal is currently shooting right now as we speak . Game match, set point.
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Gee, a movie that came out 50 years ago now looks outdated. Who'd a thunk it
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This is a non sequitur to my post which you're quoting. FYI.Gee, a movie that came out 50 years ago now looks outdated. Who'd a thunk it
We were discussing box office formulas.
Realism is the absolute last thing I want in this kind of a comic book movie, I want it to feel like a comic book, with all of the sci-fi/fantasy over the top craziness.
Yeah, I don't know if I'd call Superman & Lois realistic, it did feature the first live action appearance of Bizarro's cube earth.
Time-travel is murder right?
Although the only reason to kill Zod is to make sure that he doesn't follow Kal-El back in time, since Superman could have time traveled at any point in the movie, removing Zod from Play, and announcing total victory.
If Zod, Ursa nd Non went back in time, following the son of Jor-El, there would have been 6 of them, although Zod would obviously betray himself while he is also betraying himself, and Clark would be out of Job.
In no world is the Donner Cut of Superman II worse then the theatrical. Seriously, Richard Lester was a complete hack and his version of Superman II is an unfunny farce. He was a comedy director who wasn't even very good at comedy put on a film that was never supposed to be a comedy. Superman IV is better then the Lester Cut of Superman II, and less of a joke.
Superman III, which is purely Lester's work, is somehow worse, and shows that without being able to use any of Donner's work Lester isn't even able to put out mediocrity. Not that having to use Richard Pryor as basically the main character of the film helped, I don't think Donner could have made Pryor work any better, but Lester just put out absolute trash.
Superman III, which is purely Lester's work, is somehow worse, and shows that without being able to use any of Donner's work Lester isn't even able to put out mediocrity. Not that having to use Richard Pryor as basically the main character of the film helped, I don't think Donner could have made Pryor work any better, but Lester just put out absolute trash.
The 2013 Man of Steel is my favorite Superman Movie.
Which of Lester's films have you seen?
Lester did some good, nay, great work.
A Hard Day's Night is the single greatest rock musical ever made, and Help! is a lot of campy fun with an engaging (if slapstick-level ridiculous) story. Lester has his weaknesses but "hack"? Please. The man crafted at least one of the best musicals of the postwar era.
A Hard Day's Night is the single greatest rock musical ever made, and Help! is a lot of campy fun with an engaging (if slapstick-level ridiculous) story. Lester has his weaknesses but "hack"? Please. The man crafted at least one of the best musicals of the postwar era.
And a very entertaining version of the Musketeers.