This is the Star Trek way. Star Trek fans got so used to being social pariahs that the circling of the wagons behavior seems almost instinctual. To borrow from TOS, You are not of The Body.
Wish someone had told Season 1, 2 and 3 Captain Picard that.
Haha. No puppet episode of FAM. I just started watching it a couple weeks ago and can't stop gushing about it. Its what Trek should aspire to be.
Yeah I know right the current Trek producers... pretentious as all hell....
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Exactly. Clever Trek is rare today.
I wonder if we'll ever revisit the Kelvin timeline? If Star Trek is in need of a reboot, then perhaps following a period if rest, return to the Kelvin timeline, which is free of much of the backstory and continuity of the original timeline. No worries about stepping on canon, and an opportunity to introduce new takes on characters and lore.
I would rather it be completely unthetered from the prime universe. A complete reboot.
Is the Kelvin timeline not already sort of that?
From 2233 forward, yep.
No. Because it's a branch off from the prime universe that Nero and TOS Spock created. A complete reboot they would not have to worry about what characters they would use and the general backstory etc. They would not even have to use the Enterprise. Just keep the basic premise of Starfleet/Federation etc. and go from there.
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I get what you're saying, though part of me feels the Kelvin timeline is there, and set up to carry on in a way both new and familiar. It provides a connection that a lot of fans would value, whilst keeping open the door to a lot of new interpretations.
I'd love Kelvin to go forward. Doesn't have to be Kirk or the ENTERPRISE.
The Borg assimilated it right out of himWish someone had told Season 1, 2 and 3 Captain Picard that.
Imagine being marginally LESS of a self-righteous ass AFTER you get turned into a Borg.
Hmm… I don’t think Trek being clever or not was what I was discussing. Hmmm….
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I don't think it needs to be Game of Thrones level. Not at all. But more mature than it's been lately, yes. It doesn't need to be all excessive swearing, borderline pornographic sex, graphic violence, or anything like that. It just needs to not feel like it's aimed at kids and adults who think like kids, and I feel like SFA and SNW are. I prefer something that doesn't feel like it's essentially a live-action cartoon. "Lessons", "The Pegasus", "Rejoined", "Rules of Engagement", episodes like that. Maybe a little bit passed that. Mad Men and, yes, For All Mankind are around the level I'm thinking of. That's what I'd prefer.
TMP was rated G (yes, with an asterisk and all), but at the same time is the most mature Star Trek film...
I haven't really watched the streaming series other than Picard (though I've tried all of them except Academy), so I was coming from a "traditional" viewpoint.
Historically, Star Trek had a good balance between accessibility to adults and sophistication for children (and grown up sophisticated children). I wouldn't want to see that lost in an attempt to correct for this era's deficiencies.
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