Killjoys: Syfy space series

[Candleicious Ghost]

This was a 5 season series on syfy about a trio of happy go lucky bounty hunters chasing warrants in system of 4 planets orbiting each other, not sure how that works beyond the rule of cool but it is what it is.

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt3952222/reference/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0_tt_7_nm_1_in_0_q_killjoys

I finally completed my set after getting new season 4 and 5 sets, previous ones would not play at all on my players as the disks had become scratched during transit and broken cases. I noticed discussion here but the threads seem too old to reply to and have that note at the end of waking up old threads so if it's OK with everyone can we discuss this here?

For those of you that watched the show what were your impressions of each season? I loved the first three but did find myself losing interest by the mid point of season 4 and 5 just didn't interest me, I only completed it to see how everything ended.

First three seasons however were pretty damn good

 

[JD]

I loved it pretty much the whole way through. I'll admit it did get a little weird and I don't remember if I missed some episodes or something, because I remember finding some of the stuff with the two or three different Dutchs and the green slime stuff a little confusing.

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

I loved it pretty much the whole way through. I'll admit it did get a little weird and I don't remember if I missed some episodes or something, because I remember finding some of the stuff with the two or three different Dutchs and the green slime stuff a little confusing.

That's what made me lose interest in the show when they did too much of that. It did get a little confusing in parts.

 

[Forbin]

Yeah, the green slime was confusing while I was watching it first run, but when we got the DVD set and watched the series all the way thru (1 ep a week) it was less confusing. Still strange, mind you .

 

[JD]

I'm hoping to rewatch the whole series eventually, it sounds like it might be better when you watch it all closer together.

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

I'm hoping to rewatch the whole series eventually, it sounds like it might be better when you watch it all closer together.

10 episodes per season it's an easy binge if you roll that way

 

[Kai "the spy"]

I watched the first ... maybe two seasons?! Back when it was new and on German Netflix. Quite enjoyable, even if it was basically a poor man's FIrefly. They were the first to give Hannah John-Kamen a proper lead, though, and they were wise to do that, she pretty much carried the show.

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

I watched the first ... maybe two seasons?! Back when it was new and on German Netflix. Quite enjoyable, even if it was basically a poor man's FIrefly. They were the first to give Hannah John-Kamen a proper lead, though, and they were wise to do that, she pretty much carried the show.

Yeah, she was terrific as Dutch. Lucy was my 2nd favourite character. Apparently this show is set thousands of years into the future but the tech is all over the place

 

[Vagabond Elf]

I liked it. John-Kamen is gorgeous and a good actor, which is always going to make me want to watch something. Made in Canada, but good, which also makes me want to watch something. The Firefly / 2300 A.D. approach of wildly different tech in different places let them stretch their budgets; why build sets when you can just shoot in a Toronto alley?

I agree it gets weirder than I like - I was encountering Killjoys around the same time as Tanya Huff's Confederation of Valour series, and in both cases my reaction was "you had a perfectly good action series going on, why did you have to introduce weird super aliens?" But Killjoys does hang together and the 3 Dutches was trivial to keep track of as an Orphan Black fan, so I'd certainly recommend sticking it out to the end.

My main complaint was that after season 3, Killjoys got renewed for 2 seasons and Dark Matter got cancelled. I firmly believe that Dark Matter was the better show, it was doing marginally better in the ratings, and everyone involved obviously expected it to continue as it ends on a massive cliffhanger. (Though, that said, Dark Matter was also starting to veer into "weird super aliens" so I might not have enjoyed the ending as much as the beginning.)

It's been long enough that I don't recall details, but I do think it's a show worth watching, especially if you want to encourage non-American creatives to find a world stage. (Which is one of those thoughts that most Americans never have and most not-Americans will instantly understand, I suspect.)

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

Years on and I still cannot forgive them for cancelling Dark Matter. It was getting good then BAM!!! Cancelled

It was good to see 2 get another casting gig on The Rookie

 

[JD]

Yeah, this and Dark Matter were a great pairing, and Dark Matter's cancellation definitely sucked.
Was it this or Dark Matters that had all the "Mods" played by actors with disabilities? As a big supporter of more positive authentic disability representation in TV and movies, that made me really happy.

 

[Christopher]

Was it this or Dark Matters that had all the "Mods" played by actors with disabilities? As a big supporter of more positive authentic disability representation in TV and movies, that made me really happy.

It was Killjoys, with the Hackmods.

 

[JD]

That was them, thanks.

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

I like the hackmods.... And that girl who named her arm

 

[Aragorn]

When both shows started, I thought Dark Matter had the interesting world and Killjoys was silly, but eventually they switched places.

 

[Christopher]

When both shows started, I thought Dark Matter had the interesting world and Killjoys was silly, but eventually they switched places.

I felt DM's worldbuilding was superficial, a generic space-opera setting built from a jumble of different sci-fi tropes tossed together without any real connective tissue or unifying focus. The one original idea I remember DM having is the Transfer Transit system that created temporary clones parsecs away whose memories would be uploaded into your brain, so that it would feel like you'd actually been there. They did some creative things with the ramifications of that idea.

Killjoys, by contrast, had an intricate, complex world that always felt cohesive -- a far-future, extragalactic civilization that had its own distinct religion and tradition and lore, so far removed from us in space and time that Earth is "a home that we've forgotten." Except that somehow these people thousands of years in the future only listened to pop music from the early 21st century.

There were some speculations about the possibility of the shows crossing over, but to me it was always obvious that KJ was immensely further in the future than DM, so even if they'd been in the same universe, they didn't happen in anywhere near the same place or time and couldn't have crossed over without serious time-travel shenanigans. And they eventually revealed that FTL communication was a novelty in KJ's setting even though it was routine in DM's far, far earlier setting, which would seem to rule them out being in the same continuity. (Although I suppose it's possible that the knowledge could've been lost in some civilizational collapse and rediscovered millennia later.)

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

Trek also seems to have that thing about the music, that everyone in the far future listens to music from the 20th and 21st century mainly.

Just on that Killjoys had GREAT music like that track from the start of season 2 episode 7 it had such a good beat.

Some scenes were funny but not meant to be, like D'avin having sex with Sabine and then she explodes green stuff and collapses. I shouldn't have laughed but did because I thought that was HIS green stuff splooging out of her.

 

[Christopher]

Trek also seems to have that thing about the music, that everyone in the far future listens to music from the 20th and 21st century mainly.

In TOS, they did occasionally feature originally composed source music, but it pretty much sounded like 1940s dance music. The movies sometimes commissioned original "future" songs, like "The Moon's a Window to Heaven," but they probably sound like products of their time in retrospect, the same as "Beyond Antares" does.

I figure it's probably cheaper and easier to license existing songs than to compose and record new ones, or maybe they're going for the cross-promotion angle or something, but it's still annoying. I try to believe the songs are just fill-ins for whatever futuristic music they're really listening to. I don't follow pop music, so I usually can't tell one song from another anyway.

 

[JD]

When both shows started, I thought Dark Matter had the interesting world and Killjoys was silly, but eventually they switched places.

I liked Killjoys better right from the start.
I just checked and it looks like Killjoys isn't streaming anywhere, so I guess I probably won't be rewatching it anytime soon.
EDIT: Turns out my library has the DVDs, so I might go that route.

 

[Candleicious Ghost]

I liked Killjoys better right from the start.
I just checked and it looks like Killjoys isn't streaming anywhere, so I guess I probably won't be rewatching it anytime soon.
EDIT: Turns out my library has the DVDs, so I might go that route.

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