Early Criticism: What’s Unfounded and What Isn’t

[The Wormhole]

Sulu was revealed to be gay in Beyond which was I believe 11 years after Takei came out. Takei hated that they made Sulu gay just because he is as I recall.

Specifically, Takei's issue was that he has always considered Sulu to be heterosexual, and he has stated that in public. I for one remember an interview done with Takei shortly after he publicly came out where the interviewer asked his thoughts regarding Sulu's sexuality, and Takei made it clear that even after he accepted he was gay himself he still considered Sulu to be straight. Because of that, he felt the decision to make Sulu gay in Beyond was ignoring his wishes.

 

[Turtletrekker]

not if he was like the most badass Klingon ever: Gowron

You misspelled Martok.

 

[bryce]

All the complaining online about "OMG HOW CAN A KLINGON BE GAY!?" reminds me of the flame wars in the 90's on Usenet Star Trek groups because "Voyager" had a black Vulcan!! And, "HOW CAN A VULCAN BE *BLACK*!?" And

I also remember fan debates in the 80's because "THEY SHOULD HAVE CURED BALDNESS BY THE 24TH CENTURY!!" - Now the debates and arguments are over a Gay Klingon and a cadet in a wheelchair and a deaf Betazoid*!

*(BTW, if his auditory cortex was blown out, that would probably explain why he can't "hear voices" in his head either - because the auditory cortex is likely involved in translating psychic wavelengths/broadcasts/energies/whatever INTO an audible "voice" in a Betazoid's head. I just wish they had EXPLAINED that...AND had gotten the eyes right (or explained away THAT too!)

 

[Set Harth]

clearly they can't cure shit.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Alexander wasn't a full Klingon, it's probably better to compare him to Malor.

Who was the whiney little Duras? Even Alexander could take him.

 

[fireproof78]

clearly they can't cure shit.

Unexpected Tim Russ.

 

[Fateor]

I also remember fan debates in the 80's because "THEY SHOULD HAVE CURED BALDNESS BY THE 24TH CENTURY!!" - Now the debates and arguments are over a Gay Klingon and a cadet in a wheelchair and a deaf Betazoid*!

The irony of course being we find out in Voyager that they had cured baldness by the 24th century.

*(BTW, if his auditory cortex was blown out, that would probably explain why he can't "hear voices" in his head either - because the auditory cortex is likely involved in translating psychic wavelengths/broadcasts/energies/whatever INTO an audible "voice" in a Betazoid's head. I just wish they had EXPLAINED that...AND had gotten the eyes right (or explained away THAT too!)

Funnily enough it doesn't, because they established in TNG that unlike humans Betazoid brains have the ability to heal brain damage.

 

[fireproof78]

The irony of course being we find out in Voyager that they had cured baldness by the 24th century.

Blinks in Doctor Zimmerman.

 

[fireproof78]

Funnily enough it doesn't, because they established in TNG that unlike humans Betazoid brains have the ability to heal brain damage.

Um, humans can heal brain damage

https://www.americanbrainfoundation.org/neuroplasticity-healing-after-tbi/

 

[Set Harth]

Um, humans can heal brain damage

there's hope for me after all!

 

[fireproof78]

there's hope for me after all!

Sameses!

 

[Fateor]

Blinks in Doctor Zimmerman.

What about him?

 

[Nerys Myk]

What about him?

He didn't take the cure.

 

[fireproof78]

What about him?

'Twas bald.

 

[Fateor]

He didn't take the cure.

Yes? And? Neither did Picard.

Cosmetic medical procedures are out of vogue in the 24th century, who would have thought.

 

[fireproof78]

Not a great cure then.

 

[Detached Nacelle]

Leonard the iguana was voyager's great cute. And he was thorough about it.

 

[StarTrek1701]

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[Nerys Myk]

Oh, yay. Another video submitted without comment.

 

[Agony_Boothb]

Beyond and Discovery sadly both showed how Trek languished behind any meaningful inclusion.

It's crazy thay shows like Dynasty, the golden girls and Melrose place were far more progressive when it came to portraying gay characters, than 90's trek ever was