Would you serve under Data?
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What was your impression of Luxwana Troi?
I lurved her to bits when she was Nurse Chapel..
In one episode, Q lets Picard re-live his past in a quiet unspectacular way, and he ends up as just another low-ranked crew member on the Enterprise doing routine humdrum duties and Q explains with something like "You never did anything to stand out in a crowd to get yourself noticed"
Hey Gary, do women like boring men like that?
Hey Gary, do women like boring men like that?
I get your point, but let’s back up just a little.
…and as I once got 3 months in the slammer on a vigilante rap, maybe I should start telling women i'm an ex-convict on dating sites to "excite" them..
No one wants to hear this.
How'd we get from Data to whatever we got to? Actually, I don't want to know. I'm not looking back.
All I'm going to say is, I have a boring reply: Yes, I'd serve under Data.
"Gambit" and "Redemption" prove he knows what he's doing when he's in command. Probably some others that I don't remember, but those are the two that stand out to my mind.
All I'm going to say is, I have a boring reply: Yes, I'd serve under Data.
"Gambit" and "Redemption" prove he knows what he's doing when he's in command. Probably some others that I don't remember, but those are the two that stand out to my mind.
If you're gonna cite Oz, at least get the correct character. Tik-Tok the Mechanical Man was an automaton. Tin Woodman started as a human woodcutter, but a spell caused his axe to chop off his limbs one by one. After each accident, a tinsmith replaced the lost body part with tin.
Ah but every alien race in the show are natural-born life forms that weren't created by humans in an engineering shop like Data was..
But having said that, although i'd never want to serve under Mister "tin britches" Data I might not mind serving under a Klingon as long as he doesn't keep on about that "honour" shit..
Dropship said- I once got 3 months in the slammer on a vigilante rap, maybe I should start telling women i'm an ex-convict on dating sites to "excite" them..
1001001 said-No one wants to hear this.
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Hmm in that case maybe i'd better sign outta TBBS and go watch my Papillon, Escape from Alcatraz and Shawshank vids (sniffle)
1001001 said-No one wants to hear this.
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Hmm in that case maybe i'd better sign outta TBBS and go watch my Papillon, Escape from Alcatraz and Shawshank vids (sniffle)
The thing about Data, is he will go rogue or insane when something goes wrong or his circuits get fried or an alien probe downloads a bunch of masks with personalities into him. Granted, most of that has similar analogues with humanoids but it seems to happen more often with Mr. Data. Gotta have a rock solid first officer at the very least
Dropship said- I once got 3 months in the slammer on a vigilante rap, maybe I should start telling women i'm an ex-convict on dating sites to "excite" them..
1001001 said-No one wants to hear this.
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Hmm in that case maybe i'd better sign outta TBBS and go watch my Papillon, Escape from Alcatraz and Shawshank vids (sniffle)
Since none of that is relevant to the discussion, and really makes no sense as to why you brought it up, the admin was correct in saying that that personal info doesn’t need to be made public.
He's still a competent officer so his orders are sound.Ah but every alien race in the show are natural-born life forms that weren't created by humans in an engineering shop like Data was..
But having said that, although i'd never want to serve under Mister "tin britches" Data I might not mind serving under a Klingon as long as he doesn't keep on about that "honour" shit..
Can't even say that about every human officer.
Perhaps if we limit ourselves to TNG Data took over the ship a disproportionate number of times relative to non-androids doing so, but if we look at the franchise entire, there's plenty of instances of typically trustworthy humanoids taking over their respective vessels.The thing about Data, is he will go rogue or insane when something goes wrong or his circuits get fried or an alien probe downloads a bunch of masks with personalities into him. Granted, most of that has similar analogues with humanoids but it seems to happen more often with Mr. Data. Gotta have a rock solid first officer at the very least
Moriarty never walked off the holodeck. He simply moved around inside a hologram of the entire ship. Ironically, he was self-aware of this while all the humans that witnessed it fell for the ruse. Moriarty was carried off the holodeck (by I believe Barclay) while still trapped inside a holographic representation of half the galaxy stuffed inside a computer the size of a lunchbox. Then he was put on a shelf for a few decades until needed as a Changeling detector.
Oh, and Data was the one to discover Moriarty's deception.
Also, Worf wasn't mad about serving under a machine. Worf was mad they were sitting still and not slashing their friends' captors with swords. It's a good thing he got that anger under control by the end of the episode. Data may have saved Worf's life with that dressing down.
In a way, Moriarty is Picard's Khan. Picard took unilateral action to safeguard people from someone who was acting criminally, in their own self-interest of liberty. The solution was to bestow them with as much liberty as circumstances & propriety could afford.
So, I guess you could view it thereafter as a matter of prime directive philosophy. Must he be interfered with, in there, in order to have his life? Can they examine him in there & determine if he'd been denied a quality of life, that should merit interference & reparations? Does he pose a risk, with the divulging of his true circumstance, of having been deceived about his life? There's reason to consider that he is better left alone, both for his sake & for everybody else's, unless what's been done to him is a determinable injustice. Is it anyone's place to tell Julianna Soong that she is an android, or tell Moriarty that he's living in a generated reality?
Looking at it another way... If Starfleet found people who were living on a world that's miserably inhospitable, but it's the only way of life they've known, & they could improve their lives, they still wouldn't, because of the Prime Directive. They leave people to their lot in life, such as it is, as a means to self-govern their temptation to play God. Maybe there's an amount of culpability, in that with him they were responsible for his life circumstance, but does that change what's the best course?
A "Wrath of Moriarty" would be interesting, if later, some liberated hologram felt Moriarty had been wronged, & let him know, but it resulted in a furthering of his villain arc, like Khan's.
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