I meant, of course, so those who are paying full attention can watch the way they want to instead of the way those who aren't want to.
Fan reactions to Starfleet Academy's female Jem'Hadar/Klingon hybrid character
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That's the Roddenberry way. Ignore whatever you want.
Evolving the franchise's lore isn't ignoring it.
800 years has passed since DS9, shit changes. Look how much humanity has changed in 800 years.
I have a lot of problems with this era of Trek but this is not even close to being one of them. I actually like this change to the Jem'Hadar because it probably means that Odo successfully changed the Founders to stop being imperialists against alien species in the Dominion and freed the Jem'Hadar to actually be a species.
DS9 never established if the Founders created the Jem'Hadar or simply found an alien species and augmented them like they did with the Vorta. If the Jem'Hadar were originally their own species and not created by the Dominion, it is possible Odo convinced them to let them go back to what they were. Considering we will never get to see Odo again, it is potentially a nice little nod that he was transformative (pun ... not intended?) even after DS9's finale.
DS9 never established if the Founders created the Jem'Hadar or simply found an alien species and augmented them like they did with the Vorta. If the Jem'Hadar were originally their own species and not created by the Dominion, it is possible Odo convinced them to let them go back to what they were. Considering we will never get to see Odo again, it is potentially a nice little nod that he was transformative (pun ... not intended?) even after DS9's finale.
I genuinely don't understand the insistence that Star Trek remain static and unchanging. It's crazy how a show that is about exploration and being open to new possibilities, has so many rigid and closed-minded people watching it.
Certain things need to remain static for it to be Star Trek in my head space. If you change enough stuff, it's no longer Star Trek to me. It's become something else while still calling itself Star Trek.
Which things are those?
So the franchise can never evolve and change and introduce new things? Jem'Hadar being given the freedom and ability to have children makes star trek not star trek?
I'd point out that it was never stated in any Deep Space Nine episode that Jem'Hadar were sterile.
I'd also point out that there was one Jem'Hadar free from the Founders control that possessed a genetic mutation which allowed his body to produce its own White.
I'd also point out that there was one Jem'Hadar free from the Founders control that possessed a genetic mutation which allowed his body to produce its own White.
Indeed you would be correct it does never state that.
It does however state they do not eat, drink, sleep or reproduce sexually. There is no evidence they feel any kind of sexual impulses from any of their interactions throughout the show.
Could it just be suppressed by the white? The free Jem'Hadar or those struggling with withdrawls do not, even one going through accelerated puberty has no interest. So it is at least suppressed on a genetic level.
But then why leave it and just suppress it in the first place? If one is genetically engineering the perfect soldier race it seems best to just eliminate that all together. Should it activate you could potentially end up with one of your perfect soldiers creating a child and then no longer performing his duties the same way. Offspring are a distraction, offspring present a weakness, what if your Jem'Hadar rebels against you to protect it?
It just makes more sense to make them infertile to begin with. Hell it makes more sense to not make them anatomically correct. Genetalia is a vulnerable spot physically and without the need for food and drink also serves no purpose.
But that depends on if one only goes by what is stated on screen verbatim or in this case what is unsaid and allows for absolutely nothing to be interpretated.
Interesting tid-bit in the interview with Landau, that Thok was not the original XO of the Athena, she was always the Cadet Master and Klingon/Jem'Hadar. The original XO was an unnamed male (and it got as far along as knowing who they wanted to cast or were writing for).
I think it's supposed to be biological, though I'm not sure where I got that idea. I think maybe in Rocks and Shoals there's a line about the lack of Ketracel White is making it more difficult to continue cloaking?
Regardless, good question regarding Lura Thok. I'm going to guess yes, she can. Though it's possible that ability was lost in the intervening centuries as the Jem'Hadar began reproducing sexually and getting genders. Maybe it was even part of Odo's reforms, to make them feel more like people and less like weapons?
Regardless, good question regarding Lura Thok. I'm going to guess yes, she can. Though it's possible that ability was lost in the intervening centuries as the Jem'Hadar began reproducing sexually and getting genders. Maybe it was even part of Odo's reforms, to make them feel more like people and less like weapons?
Nope
Exactly where should they hit “pause” when developing Star Trek? The Klingons go from authoritarian Eastern Bloc surrogates to neo-feudal Samurai-Viking space bikers in the blink of an eye. (And let’s not get started on the makeup change) “Static” often means “when I first encountered it.”
The minute they decided Spock had no emotions despite previously smiling and screaming was the minute Star Trek changed too much and was irreparably damaged. Prove me wrong.
Once you remember that the Founders were experts at genetic engineering, the question is moot.
The character is clearly played by a Black actress. Everything else is an excuse.
I must say while I'm not super into the show just yet, she's a bright spot of genuine fun, and a good reason to keep giving it a chance.
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