Hey, I never noticed that before....
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Susan appeared in an episode of Cannon the other morning on MeTV, and you're right about makeup and lighting.
She was only 41 at the time, but in some shots she looked older than that.
The last thing I saw Susan Oliver in was Murder, She Wrote. Found out later she was actively dying at the time, and was almost unrecognizable. So thin.
Elaan of Troyius…So that’s how the bridge is illuminated. In the top right hand corner you can see the bottom edge of a small flood light that is used for filming the scene.
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Nice catch. But they knew what they were doing. TV sets of the period would never show that much of the film frame.Elaan of Troyius…So that’s how the bridge is illuminated. In the top right hand corner you can see the bottom edge of a small flood light that is used for filming the scene.
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Yep. That was outside the broadcast safe area.
The Way To Eden…something that’s always bothered me : several scenes on the planet surface seem rushed. There are shots of Kirk in reverse image and dubbed voices. It’s almost like the episode’s director called in sick or he just lost interest.
You’re looking the wrong way, Jim.
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You’re looking the wrong way, Jim.
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I'm assuming the flop was deemed necessary for the eyeline. If so, and I had been on the remastering team, I would have been begging somebody to at least let me digitally correct the division insignia to be on the other side (not that it would have been fast or easy, of course). Shatner's backwards hairline is a minor irritation, but that command patch makes this very jarring.
If it was too many frames for correction to be feasible, then another option could have been painting it out (as if the patch had been missing). Wouldn't be the only time a patch or braid was missing.
If it was too many frames for correction to be feasible, then another option could have been painting it out (as if the patch had been missing). Wouldn't be the only time a patch or braid was missing.
Elaan of Troyius…So that’s how the bridge is illuminated. In the top right hand corner you can see the bottom edge of a small flood light that is used for filming the scene.
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"Our [floodlit] ghost has materialized." "Elaan" has some terrific bridge scenes and action, elevating it above some of the lesser aspects of the story. Plus, Spock actually acts and is written like Spock.
It's a shame because that's a solid landing party scene that, again, is a fun aspect of an otherwise maligned S3 entry.
Yes, it's because they needed Kirk to look screen right to have an eyeline to Severin, and they must not have had a suitable shot, so they flopped the shot in post. Several shots got flopped in the teaser of "The Enemy Within" to fix directional continuity problems.The Way To Eden…something that’s always bothered me : several scenes on the planet surface seem rushed. There are shots of Kirk in reverse image and dubbed voices. It’s almost like the episode’s director called in sick or he just lost interest.
You’re looking the wrong way, Jim.
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She was very beautiful. She passed away at too young an age.
Just a Couple of Characters, Part 4: Mary Wickes and Susan Oliver
We wrap up our series Just a Couple of Characters this week with Mary Wickes and Susan Oliver. Mary and Susan are very different character actors, but you will immediately recognize them. Let’s lea…
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There's some neat info about Susan's life in that article
I'm trying to remember but I'd swear they did the old fliparoo in a few other stories as well, if needed. Do correct me where I'm wrong, but as filming was more expensive back then, took longer to set up, in stages that got very hot with all the lighting needed, and, unlike with today's technology, you had to develop the film to see if it was overexposed or underexposed or other problems requiring a reshoot (assuming no problems occurred while developing it, such as a first-year graduate walking into the room and turning on the main light switch, oops...), it made sense to do those little post-production cheap tricks to get stuff done and out the door.
It's easy to see why TOS flipped negs around, had stock shots of navigator and helm crew looking back at Kirk (even when there was never a new shot made featuring both Chekov and Sulu simultaneously!), etc, even if it stands out - especially by the 80s, never mind today.
I don't think it was about being cheap or the rigors of production inasmuch as it was that oversights inevitably happen when shooting or a decision is made during editing that a shot is needed that they don't have footage for, and you take what you have and make it work.
Having worked film shoots, I've seen this happen. You're busy getting the shots and you don't think the coverage through. Or, while in post-production, you decide to move things around, but you don't have all the footage you'd want to make it work.
I worked on one shoot where an actor asked if they could change their eyeline. The camera operator said yes, and then the result was that the new eyeline "crossed the line" because they forgot to consider where all the other eyelines were in the other shots in the scene.
Having worked film shoots, I've seen this happen. You're busy getting the shots and you don't think the coverage through. Or, while in post-production, you decide to move things around, but you don't have all the footage you'd want to make it work.
I worked on one shoot where an actor asked if they could change their eyeline. The camera operator said yes, and then the result was that the new eyeline "crossed the line" because they forgot to consider where all the other eyelines were in the other shots in the scene.
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So that guy wrote a long biographical sketch of Susan Oliver and never mentioned Star Trek? That's like writing up Sir Isaac Newton and not mentioning physics. It's the biggest thing she did!Just a Couple of Characters, Part 4: Mary Wickes and Susan Oliver
We wrap up our series Just a Couple of Characters this week with Mary Wickes and Susan Oliver. Mary and Susan are very different character actors, but you will immediately recognize them. Let’s lea…
There's some neat info about Susan's life in that article
Seen by the Fact Trek landing party at San Francisco International Airport." Waiting for Spock to call down from the bridge and tell us, "There are crash survivors on Talos."
The design inspiration for those "gooseneck" viewers in the pilot is pretty clear.
We did an article about the design influences of some TOS props a few years ago here.
The design inspiration for those "gooseneck" viewers in the pilot is pretty clear.
We did an article about the design influences of some TOS props a few years ago here.
An early example of "vertical video."
Those look remarkably like some of the exhibits at the Century 21 World's Fair held in Seattle in 1962.Seen by the Fact Trek landing party at San Francisco International Airport." Waiting for Spock to call down from the bridge and tell us, "There are crash survivors on Talos."
The design inspiration for those "gooseneck" viewers in the pilot is pretty clear.
We did an article about the design influences of some TOS props a few years ago here.
That's great. We're so old, the gee-whiz "futuristic" tech of our youth now qualifies as quaint, old-timey artifacts of the past.
In the mind of Trekkies, anyway.
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