Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

[Turtletrekker]

I would take this particular rumor with the entire salt shaker. But it would be fun!

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[Anwar]

They cut out the whole Serpent Society subplot, eliminating Rosa Salazar's role entirely, and added Sidewinder. They also changed the ending so Ross survived. Those are pretty heavy edits.

There was no Serpent Society subplot filmed to begin with, it was in the first draft of the scripts but not filmed. Rosa was cast but then her part was eliminated before filming began. And there's no proof Ross was going to die at the end either, that's just Internet talk.

 

[Turtletrekker]

And there's no proof Ross was going to die at the end either, that's just Internet talk.

I've seen set photos of Liv Tyler at a funeral, which were obviously not in the final cut.
ETA: https://www.digitalspy.com/movies/a43448671/captain-america-4-liv-tyler-first-look/

 

[Anwar]

I've seen set photos of Liv Tyler at a funeral, which were obviously not in the final cut.

I think that was some scene where she was supposed to be visiting her Mom's grave that got cut.

 

[Turtletrekker]

I think that was some scene where she was supposed to be visiting her Mom's grave that got cut.

Then why was Sam there? Why was there a casket draped in a flag?

 

[Anwar]

Then why was Sam there?

To talk to her? Who knows?

 

[Turtletrekker]

There are photos showing a flag -draped coffin as I mentioned, and also soldiers doing the military 21-gun salute. For Betty's mom? You're stretching more than Reed Richards here.

 

[JoeZhang]

There was no Serpent Society subplot filmed to begin with, it was in the first draft of the scripts but not filmed. Rosa was cast but then her part was eliminated before filming began. And there's no proof Ross was going to die at the end either, that's just Internet talk.

This is not correct - regardless of what happened later, people got photos from the original shot where there was a fight scene in a Mexican airport:




When they did the reshoots, she is seen again but with the traditional pink hair - this version appears on a happy meal box!





There was also some form of funeral because Anthony Mackie was filmed as part of the same scene:




The funeral is seen briefly in some of the early teaser trailers so was certainly filmed.

 

[Anwar]

This is not correct - regardless of what happened later, people got photos from the original shot where there was a fight scene in a Mexican airport:




When they did the reshoots, she is seen again but with the traditional pink hair - this version appears on a happy meal box!





There was also some form of funeral because Anthony Mackie was filmed as part of the same scene:

So a few fight scenes were changed, that's not a big thing being altered.

As for that last shot with Sam and the Secret Service Agent, that's a minor alter to the ending. For all we know it's for that Admiral that the Leader killed or anyone else who died.

 

[Turtletrekker]

Again -- the flag draped coffin and the military salute. For Samuel Sterns? If it were for the general, why would Betty be there? Are we supposed to be taking you seriously at this point?

 

[JoeZhang]

So a few fight scenes were changed, that's not a big thing being altered.

Remember your claim originally was:

There was no Serpent Society subplot filmed to begin with, it was in the first draft of the scripts but not filmed. Rosa was cast but then her part was eliminated before filming began.

Every element of this was wrong.

Rosa has also done interviews about being cut, the director has talked about it as well.

Your views on the funeral stuff are too silly to discuss further.

 

[Nerys Myk]

As for that last shot with Sam and the Secret Service Agent, that's a minor alter to the ending. For all we know it's for that Admiral that the Leader killed or anyone else who died.

What would be the point of showing a funeral for such a minor character?

 

[JD]

Yes, they did; they all died.

Not really, yes they all died, but it was all done off hand past tense, and did absolutely nothing to give us any kind of real closure for the characters besides Logan and Xavier, and even Xavier's storyline was really about how he effected Logan and didn't really tie back to any of his earlier appearances. By bringing the characters back in Doomsday, they're getting a chance to actually give us real closure on them and their story arcs from the previous movies.

 

[JoeZhang]

I would take this particular rumor with the entire salt shaker. But it would be fun!

Spoiler

Chris Pratt's Star-Lord Is Rumored to Be Returning to the MCU in Surprising Marvel TV Project — GeekTyrant

Chris Pratt ’s run as Peter Quill aka Star-Lord in the MCU began with the first Guardians of the Galaxy . He went on to appear in the last two Avengers films, and wrapped up his GOTG trilogy with the final film teasing that he would eventually return. Pratt doesn’t currently have any Marvel movi

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I could sort see it?

 

[JD]

Not really, yes they all died, but it was all done off hand past tense, and did absolutely nothing to give us any kind of real closure for the characters besides Logan and Xavier, and even Xavier's storyline was really about how he effected Logan and didn't really tie back to any of his earlier appearances. By bringing the characters back in Doomsday, they're getting a chance to actually give us real closure on them and their story arcs from the previous movies.

As great as Logan was, I'm still pissed at our it wiped out the rest of the X-Men, so I'm really happy that we'll hopefully be getting a new ending for the characters in Doomsday that will give them more real closure.
Since it came out, I've had a small hope that someone would decide it was an alternate future, and then we'd get a different final story for the FoXmen, and I'm glad that Doomsday might be doing that.

 

[Set Harth]

Since it came out, I've had a small hope that someone would decide it was an alternate future

The way Jackman talked when it was released, it already was.

 

[JD]

I had thought it was at first too, but then I swear I remember someone associated with the movies coming along and saying that it was definitely 100% the canon fate of the characters from the previous movies.

 

[Set Harth]

That would be the director I think, or at least the logical inference of things he said.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It's "where did Cap get that shield he gave to Sam?" all over again. Hopefully Doomsday will answer both of those questions.

 

[Set Harth]

The thing about Logan is that it essentially wants to be a sequel to the original batch of X-Men films full stop. You can't tell from watching the film that it knows the McAvoy movies even exist.