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Spoilers Stranger Things - Season 5

SO were the Russian soilders in series 3, just there doing their jobs with families back home.....

What makes a soldier good or evil? Is it their nation of birth or the orders they are operating under?

Can soldiers be considered evil at all? Or just tools of the state roped in by flase promises or conscription and made to carry out the evil orders of old corrupt men?

Either way those soldiers were in the way and hooper needed to get through them.
IIRC (been a while) the Russians were foreign troops on US soil engaged in a clandestine spy operation (or something like that). Commie invaders! Go get 'em!
 
At one point, after the fourth season, I was going to make a thread to post all the 80s inconsistencies in the show. For example, there was never one use of the word "gay" as in "that's so gay" which was a ubiquitous phrase at the time. (EDIT: Fag was also a common term in North America, even if the word had a different meaning across the pond.) There was also a scene where somebody said something along the lines of "and then this random guy shows up" which is not a phrasing that has come into popular use until recently. This season Harbour says they're going to watch a Miami Vice marathon, which never would have been a thing. This season also, the kids are using the term "Sorcerer" in its contemporary D&D version. They would not have used that distinction in the 80s. IIRC Sorcerer was the name of one of the Magic-User levels.
One of the many things wrong with the recent film about the battle of Midway was modernisms like "I got eyes on the Japanese fleet!" Pretty sure "got eyes on" is a recent phrase. I'd already been pulled out of the film by all the other stupidity in it, so a that point I was just smacking my head every five minutes. :lol:
 
One of the many things wrong with the recent film about the battle of Midway was modernisms like "I got eyes on the Japanese fleet!" Pretty sure "got eyes on" is a recent phrase. I'd already been pulled out of the film by all the other stupidity in it, so a that point I was just smacking my head every five minutes. :lol:
I don’t really have a problem with that.
Unless the movie/show claims 100% historical accuracy contemporary language is used all the time.
So many movies in medieval, Victorian or Neolithic times that do it. Or futuristic movies.
It’s always more or less contemporary language.
The only difference here is it’s living memory.
 
I don’t really have a problem with that.
Unless the movie/show claims 100% historical accuracy contemporary language is used all the time.
So many movies in medieval, Victorian or Neolithic times that do it. Or futuristic movies.
It’s always more or less contemporary language.
The only difference here is it’s living memory.
I expect the language to be pretty accurate as the time period isn't all that long ago.

If it's far enough back that no one from that period is alive, I'd give it some liberties.
 
One of the many things wrong with the recent film about the battle of Midway was modernisms like "I got eyes on the Japanese fleet!" Pretty sure "got eyes on" is a recent phrase. I'd already been pulled out of the film by all the other stupidity in it, so a that point I was just smacking my head every five minutes. :lol:

Interestingly, although that is a recent term in everyday parlance, it is possible the military used this phrase or similar even earlier than the 40s.
 
I expect the language to be pretty accurate as the time period isn't all that long ago.

If it's far enough back that no one from that period is alive, I'd give it some liberties.

My rule about older historical dramas is if the use of phrasing or slang is just so obviously contemporary that it becomes dated within a few years than that just pulls me out of the narrative. For me, this is similar to Science Fiction series that reference real world current events when the characters are talking about the past. Star Trek was fairly careful about this throughout the years, but look at how poorly some of their references turned out like the Eugenic Wars or Elon Musk reference. But when Trek referred to Twain, Shakespeare or older music styles it still comes across as relevant.
 
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My rule about older historical dramas is if the use of phrasing or slang is just so obviously contemporary that it becomes dated within a few years than that just pulls me out of the narrative. For me, this is similar to Science Fiction series that reference real world current events when the characters are talking about the past. Star Trek was fairly careful about this throughout the years, but look at how poorly some of their references turned out like the Eugenic Wars or Elon Musk reference. But when Trek referred to Twain, Shakespeare or older music styles it still comes across as relevant.
I was rewatching some TNG not that long ago, and I remember a reference to Ireland that's now wrong as well.


Referencing Musk was definitely a mistake. Best to stick to dead people.
 
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