What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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or being spaced.
Like a little Starfleet pop gun.or being spaced.
Speaking of spaced-worthy characters, here's a controversial opinion:
I like when Wesley stood up to Picard in "Datalore". The only part everyone remembers is Picard's "shut up Wesley," but in context that's Picard being a dunce and nearly dooming the ship by refusing to listen to key evidence.
I'd go further and say that I almost like Wesley; sadly the show never uses him well, but there's a really cool idea in having a character who shows the traits of an ideal Starfleet officer, and then just decides that Starfleet is actually dull or even morally compromised, and that he'd be better off elsewhere (completely blindsiding Picard, who took it for granted that Wesley would want to be exactly like him).
I like when Wesley stood up to Picard in "Datalore". The only part everyone remembers is Picard's "shut up Wesley," but in context that's Picard being a dunce and nearly dooming the ship by refusing to listen to key evidence.
I'd go further and say that I almost like Wesley; sadly the show never uses him well, but there's a really cool idea in having a character who shows the traits of an ideal Starfleet officer, and then just decides that Starfleet is actually dull or even morally compromised, and that he'd be better off elsewhere (completely blindsiding Picard, who took it for granted that Wesley would want to be exactly like him).
Season 1 Picard was almost exclusively an overrated horse's ass. He comes off so bad even in episodes where the story is excrement.
Entirely possible. DS9 was a large station. I'd hate to be one of the lower-deckers to have to clean up after that mess, though.
Poor Rom. At least he eventually got a better job than having to keep working for Quark.
Grand Nagus? Yup, I’d say that was a pretty decent promotion. 
Actually got promoted 3 times. First got a job working in engineering then got more responsibilities and then Grand Nagus.Grand Nagus? Yup, I’d say that was a pretty decent promotion.
I'm bad with definitions, but I don't think it counts as a promotion when you switch careers? So becoming Nagus doesn't count. Same deal for becoming part of the engineering staff. Unless I'm wrong (I wouldn't be surprised!) only the promotions subsequent to the new job posting would count.
That said, I think he was still actually promoted three times. Maybe four depending on how you count obviously made up ones by Quark.
Rom was first *ahem* "promoted" to bodyguard in The Nagus. (This one is pretty spurious).
Then promoted to "Assistant Manager of Policy and Clientele" at the end of the ep. (This one was also made up on the spot, but Rom did reference it again five years later for what it's worth.)
After he quit at Quark's and spent some time as an engineer (Diagnostic and repair technician, junior grade), O'Brien promoted him to the day shift in The Assignment.
Then he got promoted again (to "Maintenance Engineer, First Class") in It's Only a Paper Moon.
Then he switched careers again to become leader of the Ferengi Alliance.
Don't mind me, sometimes it's just fun to try and dig into the details. And that's assuming I haven't messed them up!
I'm bad with definitions, but I don't think it counts as a promotion when you switch careers? So becoming Nagus doesn't count. Same deal for becoming part of the engineering staff. Unless I'm wrong (I wouldn't be surprised!) only the promotions subsequent to the new job posting would count.
That said, I think he was still actually promoted three times. Maybe four depending on how you count obviously made up ones by Quark.
Rom was first *ahem* "promoted" to bodyguard in The Nagus. (This one is pretty spurious).
Then promoted to "Assistant Manager of Policy and Clientele" at the end of the ep. (This one was also made up on the spot, but Rom did reference it again five years later for what it's worth.)
After he quit at Quark's and spent some time as an engineer (Diagnostic and repair technician, junior grade), O'Brien promoted him to the day shift in The Assignment.
Then he got promoted again (to "Maintenance Engineer, First Class") in It's Only a Paper Moon.
Then he switched careers again to become leader of the Ferengi Alliance.
Don't mind me, sometimes it's just fun to try and dig into the details. And that's assuming I haven't messed them up!
This is 50% of what being a Trek fan is all about. Talking about Trek details only we Trekkies care about. The other 50% is arguing about canon. Which also happens to be something we Trekkies only care about.
There were a bunch of DS9 personnel sitting in the stands watching. I mean them.
Sure, but rarely are they as spread out as a ball field, with the variety of perspectives that implies.
At this point, we pretty much have to accept the fact that a holodeck is basically a shipboard TARDIS. If anything, the fact Data was able to throw a rock and hit the holodeck's actual wall in Farpoint is now the oddity compared to how holodecks have been portrayed ever since.
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