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Spoilers Dune: Prophecy - Spoilers!

Timewalker said:
If the TV series was consistent with the novels (all of them), that Face Dancer was really a Tleilaxu male.
Scytale claimed that Face Dancers are hermaphrodites.
 
I was hopeful for Dune: Prophesy, but the imprint of KJA is all over it as demonstrated by the numerous anachronistic or just plain silly things that were included. Perhaps it's not completely his fault, but it feels very off. I read Butlerian Jihad stuff, but not Sisterhood of Dune as I grew sick of the same tired old schtick. I got the impression that Brian Herbert was merely along for the ride to add marketing credibility. Perhaps he really did contribute - if so, he must have had precious little comprehension of his father's philosophical oeuvre.

Dune: Prophesy is not as excruciatingly bad as The Rings of Power, but it's something that feels like it belongs in an adjacent universe to Frank Herbert's Dune - perhaps one that is a melange of Millennial sensibilities and Star Wars tropes.
 
The thing about spice addiction is that once you're addicted, you can't wean yourself off of it. You either keep taking it or you die. That's enough to motivate the nobility to rebel. It's got nothing to do with the common people. They never got addicted because unless they lived on Arrakis or served in a noble household that was generous enough to share with the servants, they never had a chance to become addicted. You can't become addicted to something you never become exposed to.
I don't remember much since this was a while ago and I never bothered finishing the show, but I'm pretty sure I was responding to the depiction of common people indeed being addicted; hence my incredulity for the very reasons you've reiterated. If I'm mis-remembering; oh well! I can say that I care overmuch at this point.
 
The writing is a mess, the characters even more so
Look no further than the list of Executive Producers. KJA/BH made a mess of everything.

I was hopeful for Dune: Prophesy, but the imprint of KJA is all over it as demonstrated by the numerous anachronistic or just plain silly things that were included. Perhaps it's not completely his fault, but it feels very off. I read Butlerian Jihad stuff, but not Sisterhood of Dune as I grew sick of the same tired old schtick. I got the impression that Brian Herbert was merely along for the ride to add marketing credibility. Perhaps he really did contribute - if so, he must have had precious little comprehension of his father's philosophical oeuvre.

Exactly. KJA kept blathering away that he and BH spent sooooo much time "brainstorming" yet we never heard from BH. KJA's story of finding the Holy Notes That Frank Left kept changing every time he told it.

I will say that I enjoyed Brian Herbert's biography of Frank Herbert. It was interesting, and most of it was probably true. Of course he would have a different spin on some things, since like many kids of professional writers, they tend to be a bit resentful of their writer-parent working from home, yet telling the family that they are not to be disturbed, and they don't necessarily keep 9-5 hours, 5 days a week.
 
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IIRC Indira Varma was originally supposed to play Natalya Corrino (which she now won't, obviously, since Jodhi May is on the cast list for season 2).

Hollander would strike me as a Harkonnen, but are we due a Corrino cousin?

If they go with what the books the show is based on/inspired by say, Javicco Corrino has three sisters - Wissoma, Tikya and Nantha. Nantha was accidentally killed (whoops?) by a Butlerian mob when Javi was only 12, but Tikya and Wissoma are still around as far as we know (he says he never liked them tho, and they were married off to powerful nobles to strengthen House Corrino, which would actually nicely explain their absence in season 1). It wouldn't surprise me if one or both of them showed up now with a male heir, making a claim for the throne. Natalya will be thrilled. :lol:

What I don't quite understand is why Constantine can't make a claim (maybe he will in season 2 tho, Josh Heuston has said there's a lot of palace intrigue in the second season because everyone is now fighting for power). I mean his own grandfather Roderick was an "illegitimate" child on the throne, as was Roderick's half-brother Salvador (their father Jules was married but never touched his wife, both Roderick and Salvador were sons he had with different concubines). And since Constantine seems well-versed in Corrino family history (he's the one who mentions Roderick's and Jules' names on the show), he should be very much aware of this.
 
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I started a rewatch today!

Oooh, enjoy (I hope)! Would love to hear if your view on the show has changed in any way. I re-watched the first season recently and I loved the show even more than I already had. For me personally the show works best when you watch the episodes in a row (and not weekly like they were originally distributed, some shows just need to be binge-watched, and Dune: Prophecy is one of them).
 
Oooh, enjoy (I hope)! Would love to hear if your view on the show has changed in any way. I re-watched the first season recently and I loved the show even more than I already had. For me personally the show works best when you watch the episodes in a row (and not weekly like they were originally distributed, some shows just need to be binge-watched, and Dune: Prophecy is one of them).

Like I mentioned, I binged it over a saturday evening and sunday afternoon. That works perfect. It is one long tale so watching it as such makes more sense.
 
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