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News Adam Driver tried to bring back Kylo Ren with the help of Steven Soderbergh

I may not like it, but I guess if Ventress can come back, anyone can come back. :ouch:
..or how about the hacks at LFL actually grow or swipe a bit of integrity (:lol: ) and let their worthless sequel trilogy fade away. Next to no one is begging for a return of anything related to it.
 
io9 are losing their shit because the official Star Wars YouTube channel posted this particular clip today.

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Whether or not this clip is trolling fandom, I find it very amusing io9 has devoted so much time and energy on this particular news story (three articles up to this point).
Good fucking grief. People just need shit to be mad about don't they? :sigh:

This is "The People vs. George Lucas" style vibes, and the clamor for him to sell LFL because the PT was so bad.
 
and why would they make Disney's CEO look bad in a marketing campaign?
or how about the hacks at LFL actually grow or swipe a bit of integrity
Don't be a dick.
Just because *you* don't like something they made, doesn't mean they're spineless or hacks.

Next to no one is begging for a return of anything related to it.
Based on the reaction I'm seeing in other places online, that's not true.

It's small, but hardly 'next to no one'
 
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the fan reaction to this is so weird

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It is a bit weird that you have an alleged Rey movie in the mix and a once-greenlit Hunt for Ben Solo concept floating around and they're not... part of the same series or trilogy? Episodes X and XI, anyone? No? Just standalones?
 
..or how about the hacks at LFL actually grow or swipe a bit of integrity (:lol: ) and let their worthless sequel trilogy fade away. Next to no one is begging for a return of anything related to it.
I don't know, a lot of people do seem like Rey and I'm definitely looking forward to seeing her again. And the end of The Rise of Skywalker is the perfect opportunity to wipe the slate clean and take things in a new direction.
This whole attitude that some fans have they everybody automatically has to feel to the way they do, and if you don't you're an idiot, or not a "real fan" is really starting to irritate me. There is no fandom where everybody feels the same way about everything, and as a fan of the Pirates of the Carribean and Matrix sequels, Star Treks Insurrection and Into Darkness, the later seasons of the Arrowverse shows, and the Star Wars prequels, I've gotten used to a lot of other fans not liking the same stuff I do. It's fine if you don't like something, but that does not give you the right to be insulting to the people who do like that stuff, or the people who made it.
 
Adam Driver revealed to the Associated Press that he tried to bring back Kylo Ren with the help of director Steven Soderbergh (Traffic, Contagion, Ocean's trilogy, Logan Lucky) with Lucasfim's approval...but Disney said no because they couldn't understand it:

“I always was interested in doing another ‘Star Wars,’” says Driver, who starred as Kylo Ren in the trilogy kicked off by “The Force Awakens.” “I had been talking about doing another one since 2021. Kathleen (Kennedy) had reached out. I always said: With a great director and a great story, I’d be there in a second. I loved that character and loved playing him.”​
Driver says he took a concept to Soderbergh for a film that would take place after 2019’s “The Rise of Skywalker.” That movie culminated in Ren’s redemption and apparent death. Driver had undertaken the trilogy with an arc in mind for Ren that inverted the journey of Darth Vader. As the trilogy evolved, it didn’t play out that way. Driver felt there was unfinished business for Kylo Ren, or as he was known before turning to the Dark Side, Ben Solo.​
Soderbergh and Rebecca Blunt outlined a story that the group then pitched to Kennedy, Lucasfilm vice president Cary Beck and Lucasfilm chief creative officer Dave Filoni. They were interested, so the filmmakers then pulled in Scott Z. Burns to write a script. Driver calls the result “one of the coolest (expletive) scripts I had ever been a part of.”​
“We presented the script to Lucasfilm. They loved the idea. They totally understood our angle and why we were doing it,” Driver says. “We took it to Bob Iger and Alan Bergman and they said no. They didn’t see how Ben Solo was alive. And that was that.”​
“It was called ‘The Hunt for Ben Solo’ and it was really cool,” adds Driver. “But it is no more, so I can finally talk about it.”​
Soderbergh, in a statement, said: “I really enjoyed making the movie in my head. I’m just sorry the fans won’t get to see it.”​
A damn shame. As a big fan of Soderbergh, I would love to see his take on Star Wars. While I wasn't the biggest fan of Kylo Ren, I feel like he couldn't been an interesting character in the right hands.

If the Emporer was able to come back using the Dark Arks, then Kylo Ren should be able to use the same Dark Arts to return from the dead.
 
This whole attitude that some fans have they everybody automatically has to feel to the way they do, and if you don't you're an idiot, or not a "real fan" is really starting to irritate me.

Why should it? After all, there's threads created in this forum where certain members spent nearly every day attacking anyone who did not see their view of a character or film as the "right" interpretation.

I've gotten used to a lot of other fans not liking the same stuff I do. It's fine if you don't like something

but that does not give you the right to be insulting to the people who do like that stuff, or the people who made it.

I could take this thread in your direction and note how easy it would be to find innumerable posts where you committed the same behavior you're complaining about. In fact, you seem to lack the self-control to accept that some did not like the ST at all, and their reasons are as justified to this group as you seem to believe your reasons for supporting are to you.
 
I don't know, a lot of people do seem like Rey and I'm definitely looking forward to seeing her again. And the end of The Rise of Skywalker is the perfect opportunity to wipe the slate clean and take things in a new direction.
This whole attitude that some fans have they everybody automatically has to feel to the way they do, and if you don't you're an idiot, or not a "real fan" is really starting to irritate me. There is no fandom where everybody feels the same way about everything, and as a fan of the Pirates of the Carribean and Matrix sequels, Star Treks Insurrection and Into Darkness, the later seasons of the Arrowverse shows, and the Star Wars prequels, I've gotten used to a lot of other fans not liking the same stuff I do. It's fine if you don't like something, but that does not give you the right to be insulting to the people who do like that stuff, or the people who made it.
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Why should it? After all, there's threads created in this forum where certain members spent nearly every day attacking anyone who did not see their view of a character or film as the "right" interpretation.
Because it's a shitty way to act towards people.
I could take this thread in your direction and note how easy it would be to find innumerable posts where you committed the same behavior you're complaining about. In fact, you seem to lack the self-control to accept that some did not like the ST at all, and their reasons are as justified to this group as you seem to believe your reasons for supporting are to you.
I've argued about why I disagree with people who don't like stuff, and I've defended the things that I liked, and I've defended the things that I like when they're being attacked, and admittedly gotten angry at people's attitude towards those things, but I can't recall ever intentionally insulting anyone just because they liked a thing I don't.
 
If the Emporer was able to come back using the Dark Arks, then Kylo Ren should be able to use the same Dark Arts to return from the dead.
1)He was supposedly redeemed, so in theory he wouldn't be using Dark Arts.
2)Assuming he died in the way TROS implies ( though perhaps the aborted "Hunt for Ben Solo" project would have called this into question ), it would have been too late to Transfer Essence.
 
Thank God for Disney nixing this idea. The last thing I want is Kylo Whine in another Star Wars production.
 
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