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…and having now read the full text of the article on pgs 56, 57 & 66 — thank you for digging it out — there appears to be zero indication of Cameron claiming to have ripped off either Ellison or The Outer Limits. The closest he comes to anything like that is saying he read a bunch of old Ace paperbacks and was a science fiction fan.
 
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…and having now read the full text of the article on pgs 56, 57 & 66 — thank you for digging it out — there appears to be zero indication of Cameron claiming to have ripped off either Ellison or The Outer Limits. The closest he comes to anything like that is saying he read a bunch of old Ace paperbacks and was a science fiction fan.
If I remember correctly, the story went that the interviewer was friends with Ellison and told him about what Cameron said, so Ellison called Starlog and the magazine got nervous and pulled the actual quote.
 
I'm aware. I've screwed up a lot in my life.

There are just certain "inciting incidents" that break suspension of disbelief for me. This is one of them.

Others have others. This is SF DEBRIS stupidest scene in Star Trek for him: it's from Deep Space Nine and he's more known for lambasting Voyager ahs Enterprise more than Deep Space Nine but this scene tops his list.

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I couldn't stand more than half of that due to his insufferable voice, and his shit take of that scene.

Phasers aren't gunpowder firearms. 300 years in the future, they probably have a high-tech interlock of some kind to avoid accidental discharge. Also, it's probably set on Stun, so no big deal.
 
It literally created Space Opera as a sub genre of science fiction.
It literally did NOT create "space opera".

"The term "space opera" was coined in 1941 by fan writer and author Wilson Tucker as a pejorative term in an article in Le Zombie (a science fiction fanzine). At the time, serial radio dramas in the United States had become popularly known as soap operas because many were sponsored by soap manufacturers. The term "horse opera" had also come into use to describe formulaic Western films.

Tucker defined space opera as the science fiction equivalent: A "hacky, grinding, stinking, outworn, spaceship yarn". Fans and critics have noted that the plots of space operas have sometimes been taken from horse operas and simply translated into an outer space environment, as famously parodied on the back cover of the first issue of Galaxy Science Fiction."
 
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I couldn't stand more than half of that due to his insufferable voice, and his shit take of that scene.

Phasers aren't gunpowder firearms. 300 years in the future, they probably have a high-tech interlock of some kind to avoid accidental discharge. Also, it's probably set on Stun, so no big deal.
what kind of high tech interlock? mind reading technology that detects the wielder's intentions? good thing to go wrong, get confused, and malfunction...
"it's probably set on stun, so it's no big deal" is the same as "it probably is just filled with blanks, so it's fine".
nevermind that merely disabling your coworker through negligence is generally considered a bad move, we know stun settings can kill in certain situations (like blanks, or guns that are *supposed* to only have blanks in them...), and you don't want to do it in a situation where they have
the easiest way to avoid accidents is to not be an idiot. and "don't worry, the safety's on" is being an idiot. it's the thing you say right before screaming "oh no, my friend's head is gone". 300 years of progression don't negate "don't point weapons at things you would rather not be destroyed or killed".

not sure i would agree that it's the "stupidest moment in all of trek history", but the guy is right that she really ought to know better. one might say her flippancy when it's pointed out is part of the reason they both got got: too self assured to do security correctly.
 
300 years of progression don't negate "don't point weapons at things you would rather not be destroyed or killed".
QFT

The basics of Weapon Handling Safety NEED to be taught to everybody.

Don't point the business end at people or things that could be destroyed should it go off unintentionally.

That's one of the core rules that need to be taught.
 
I couldn't stand more than half of that due to his insufferable voice, and his shit take of that scene.

Phasers aren't gunpowder firearms. 300 years in the future, they probably have a high-tech interlock of some kind to avoid accidental discharge. Also, it's probably set on Stun, so no big deal.
The type of weapon shouldn't matter. You don't brandish a weapon at something or someone you don't intend to shoot, period.

It's a sign of poor training at best, and criminal negligence at worse. A stun setting doesn't negate that fact because of the potential harm.
 
No, Starfleet policy is pretty clear cut on the matter of murder, even if it aligns with another culture's beliefs. In Amok Time when Spock believed he killed Kirk, he was going to surrender to Starfleet and accept court martial and prison time for it, even though it was sanctioned on Vulcan as part of a ponn farr ritual.

We have no idea how that would've played out. T'Pau got Kirk off the hook, she probably would've done the same for Spock. At worst, Spock would've been discharged from Starfleet.
 
Y'all may be cool, but you're not "Kirk, scratching his face with his fully-charged phaser and finger on the trigger" cool! :p
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bad trigger discipline, but still not actually pointing at his face or anyone else

now i think of it, phasers probably have something so you have to apply a certain amount of pressure to the trigger before it fires, to avoid casual brushes to set them off, especially since they almost never have guards.
 
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The statement in one version of the Star Trek the Next Generation Writer's Guide, that stun setting one is good for microwave popcorn...and that stun setting 2 is good for a frozen chicken pot pie is very telling. No comment made about a frozen Thanksgiving Turkey, but I think that it should be able to cook one is about five minutes...

Polar Bears don't count as a food item...especially since their fur is a nearly perfect insulator. Also one cubic inch of Polar Bear liver, is supposed to have enough vitamin A to kill you.

Survival is always a must. Plan on a stupid writer, existing.
 
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