Spoilers Alien Earth (2025 Hulu show)

[valkyrie013]

At the inclusion of Prometheus.. They could have had Boy genius and Yutani have some hi end stuff, like i think of the Prometheus as a billionare's yacht, over the top and top of the line. Them talking to each other over a blocky Ipad was kinda Meh..

Makes you wonder how old the Nostromo was as the Maginot is 65 years old at the time and looks like it.

 

[thribs]

I like that that the Yutani lead is still a woman. That was taken from AvP: Requiem

 

[Daedalus]

I like that that the Yutani lead is still a woman. That was taken from AvP: Requiem

I like to imagine the Ms.Yutani seen in AVPR was the grandmother that sent the Maginot out. She'd be in her late 70s, but it kinda fits.

 

[Saul]

I know this is a deleted plot/scene that was later reinserted into Aliens but did Ripley leave Earth knowing her daughter would be much older by the time she returned?

Or was Maginot an older/slower ship and the crew knew this was a trip where they'd be gone for decades.

What I want to know is, why haven't any Weyland-Yutani mercs shown up? Too far behind enemy lines, so to speak? Were they hitchhiking?

Wondered that too. They moved on quickly from the crashed ship. I was expecting things to spiral more out of control once Weyland Yutani mercs showed up.

Wrong. The only thing the showrunners stated is that they are mostly ignoring the prequels Prometheus and Covenant ( rightfully so), otherwise it's deeply connected to the Alien franchise but expands on its scope and lore.

And there is nothing in this series that has [or will?] contradict those movies. And I'm not defending them. They annoy the hell out of me.

 

[Set Harth]

Wondered that too. They moved on quickly from the crashed ship. I was expecting things to spiral more out of control once Weyland Yutani mercs showed up.

Now that I've rewatched it, it looks like Yutani held back because boygenius threatened her.

 

[Tosk]

I know this is a deleted plot/scene that was later reinserted into Aliens but did Ripley leave Earth knowing her daughter would be much older by the time she returned?

Ripley had promised Amanda that she would be back in time for her eleventh birthday.

 

[JD]

And there is nothing in this series that has [or will?] contradict those movies. And I'm not defending them. They annoy the hell out of me.

That would depend on whether or not the Xenomorphs were around before David created the one in Covenant, which is kind of vague. I've seen stuff that interpreted things both ways. I know there is a carving on one in the temple, but I was kind of impression that even if they existed before, they didn't exist any more until David recreated them.
It sounds like there's a chance they might give the Xenomorphs a different backstory, since they specifically said that they're not following the backstory the Covenant and Prometheus established.

 

[thribs]

David’s ones are called Protomorphs. The ones before that were Neomorphs.

 

[kitik]

Right now i am pleasantly suprised that the Alien franchise can still grab me, this show is amazing right now with all those new concepts and expansion of the universe. There are enough balls in the air and plot hooks to keep me guessing where it will al lead and the characters are fascinating to watch from the creepy prodigy trillionaire wunderkind corporate leader to the children in highly advanced synthetical bodies up to the messed up security chief cyborg who's on a mission of his own.

Yeah, I'm now fully invested in this show. It is not the same old Alien story we've seen so much of before. The kids are getting much more interesting. (Seriously, who the hell sends kids to a crash site full of dead bodies?)

And I need to know what those rubber suited cleanup crew guys are spraying down. What the hell are they doing? Is it something as simple as there being some sort of mold or fungus problem at that facility, due to it being so tropical or something? Towards the end of the episode, we saw Wendy walking between two rectangular pools of water(?), and one of those guys was cleaning there too. The cleaners don't seem to be synths, because we saw that one guy with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth this time.

Also, what is with Boy Kavalier's feet? Last time we saw him doing some bizarre poses while having the conversation with Yutani, most notably lying down and holding the pad up with his feet. But this time we actually saw him clicking on a laptop or computer keyboard with his feet. Is there something more to it, or is this just a way of showing that he's a legit prodigy who uses 3 or 4 limbs instead the regular 1 or 2 most of us use.

Okay, I just went back and rewatched that specific scene, and it does indeed seem intended to show us what a unique genius he is. He's putting together some 3D puzzle or sculpture with his hands, clicking a computer with his foot, reading the screen with his eyes, and holding a conversation with Curly all at the same time. (And in the background, you can see another one of those cleaner/sprayer guys just walking by.)

 

[Steve Roby]

Nor the Ships crews deaths, glossed over too, could have been a great opening hour if they showed the ship more the first episode and show the death.

We have several movies already that show the death. Lots of the death. I like the idea that they may do something different here, and not just another "oh shit, monsters! oh shit, everyone's dead" story.

Wrong. The only thing the showrunners stated is that they are mostly ignoring the prequels Prometheus and Covenant ( rightfully so), otherwise it's deeply connected to the Alien franchise but expands on its scope and lore.

Why is it rightly so to skip those?

Does anyone else remember Ridley Scott saying, around the time of Prometheus, that he wasn't calling it Alien: Prometheus because it was its own thing and wasn't necessarily part of the Alien series?

 

[Set Harth]

Does anyone else remember Ridley Scott saying, around the time of Prometheus, that he wasn't calling it Alien: Prometheus because it was its own thing and wasn't necessarily part of the Alien series?

I don't remember that specifically, but I do remember it was marketed as if it was a totally separate thing, which is probably at least partly responsible for my not seeing it theatrically.
Then you watch the movie and it's obviously in the Alien universe and you wonder why they bothered to play dumb about it.

 

[JD]

Yeah, I'm now fully invested in this show. It is not the same old Alien story we've seen so much of before. The kids are getting much more interesting. (Seriously, who the hell sends kids to a crash site full of dead bodies?)

And I need to know what those rubber suited cleanup crew guys are spraying down. What the hell are they doing? Is it something as simple as there being some sort of mold or fungus problem at that facility, due to it being so tropical or something? Towards the end of the episode, we saw Wendy walking between two rectangular pools of water(?), and one of those guys was cleaning there too. The cleaners don't seem to be synths, because we saw that one guy with a cigarette hanging out of his mouth this time.

Either IGN did an interview with Noah Hawley and he addressed the sprayer guys, and he said that rising water levels moisture is seeping in everywhere, and mold is big problem in for Neverland, and those are guys are just trying to keep it under control.
Here's the relevant bit:

While the show’s threats are clear to see, there’s another subtle destroyer of worlds lurking in the background: climate change. The Earth of Alien: Earth is hotter than our present-day one, and the oceans have risen. The architecture of 2120 accommodates that, partially because “technology hates water.” Combine that with the show’s very different focal point – a boy genius CEO – and naturally the scenes set at Prodigy HQ have a very different feel to what’s come before.

“You've moved up from the grunt space, trucker engine room feel of it,” says Hawley. “Now we're with the trillionaire. But even so, they're still fighting the mold. They're still fighting off the water intrusion. The fungus and mold scrubber characters that we brought in, all of that stuff is in order to bring the identity of Alien. Where something's always dripping into the Neverland world.”

The interview is about the worldbuilding that went into the show's version of Earth is worth read
https://www.ign.com/articles/designing-the-earth-of-alien-earth

 

[Skywalker]

I like to imagine the Ms.Yutani seen in AVPR was the grandmother that sent the Maginot out. She'd be in her late 70s, but it kinda fits.

I definitely think that was the intention. She would have been an old woman by the time the Maginot left, but people in their 70s now can still be pretty hale and hearty, so I don't see why one couldn't be in the mid-21st century, especially a wealthy one with access to the best medical care (and also advanced alien technology).

If this show is willing to pull ideas from a movie as disliked as AVPR, then I would also say their whole "We're ignoring the Prometheus movies" stance was just marketing because they know how divisive those movies are, and will gladly take anything from them that they think would enhance the story they're telling here.

 

[Set Harth]

Kind of like "don't say midichlorians on screen until at least 2024, you don't want to enrage THOSE people"

 

[Starkers]

I'm glad the rest of the kids are now becoming more distinguishable characters with this episode and all it took was for Wendy to be sidelined for most of it. Curly and Nibs are the ones that are grabbing my attention the most at the moment, between Curly's struggles with her traumatic experience with the eyeball squid and Nibs' growing intellectual curiosity. I also love how that all of the kids came out of the search and rescue mission distinctively effected and I'm intrigued to see where each of their character arcs will go.

I think you have those characters mixed up? Nibs is the one who had the traumatic experience with the eyeball squid (and dear lord that might be the most terrifying thing in the show!)

I'm enjoying this so far, between this and Romulus it's good to see some decent new stuff being done in the universe.

I hadn't considered that they were putting the alien embryo in Joe's lung just to put it back in him. I actually thought it was a refreshing change that they didn't have a human test subject to let the face-hugger impregnate and were going down a different route.

I like that the single xenomorph was so dangerous. I've probably said this before but my only real issue with Aliens is that if the marines had had competent leadership, Burke wasn't skulking around, and if they hadn't lost most of their gear, they'd have cleaned house. (I used to love the special edition but now it's the cinematic cut all the way for me, the sentry guns are cool but man they show how vulnerable the xenos are to gunfire*)

Going to be interesting to see where the show goes.


(* I understand there's an argument that the aliens are intentionally throwing themselves at the sentry guns but I don't buy it, they can't know the guns have limited ammo surely)

Obviously we're only three episodes in but at the moment I think this is a top 5 entry in the franchise.

1. Alien
2. Aliens
3. Romulus
4. This
5. Alien 3 (Assembly cut)

 

[JD]

I have to admit, I came really close to turning it when they had the eye octopus in the cat, eye stuff really freaks me out. I've watched it more times than I can count, but I still cringe and almost have to close my eyes when the needle starts to go into Picard's eye in the opening of First Contact.

 

[The Nth Doctor]

I think you have those characters mixed up? Nibs is the one who had the traumatic experience with the eyeball squid (and dear lord that might be the most terrifying thing in the show!)

Huh, I could've sworn I looked up the names correctly but I guess I read it wrong. I trust you're right.

 

[Set Harth]

Why didn't the alien kill Joe when it had the chance? Just to lure in Marcy/Wendy?

 

[thribs]

Why didn't the alien kill Joe when it had the chance? Just to lure in Marcy/Wendy?

The alien was acting very erratically throughout. Just killing everything and not capturing anyone for those eggs.

 

[Starkers]

Huh, I could've sworn I looked up the names correctly but I guess I read it wrong. I trust you're right.

Nibs is definitely the red head.