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Rings of Power S3/Hunt for Gollum Anticipation and JRR Tolkien Discussion thread

If you haven't already, you should check out this production from OTOY, the company behind the amazing Roddenberry archive and the above clip of Saavik. It was made with the cooperation of Paramount and has William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy's widow listed as executive producers.

The story is... vague and open to interpretation by the viewer and ties in with the other shorts that they have produced. As noted in the Saavik clip, the lack of dialogue was a deliberate choice and the whole idea came from a feeling from the people at OTOY that Kirk and Spock deserved to have a final farewell between them.

All three versions of Kirk are portrayed by Sam Witwer and Spock by Lawrence Sellek, but with the digital mask technology used as seen above, they are near indistinguishable from Shatner and Nimoy, and it was shot in real time without post production.

According to Sam Witwer, the whole point of the endeavor is to give actors and their families a way to own and copyright their own image and likeness in perpetuity, so it can't be used without their permission.

And to top it all off, the end result, as seen in Unification, actually comes off looking much better than Luke Skywalker did in The Mandalorian or John Delancey did in those first few moments that we saw him as Q in Picard season two.

And yes, that is Gary Lockwood reprising his role as Gary Mitchell from the second Star Trek pilot, Where No Man Has gone before. And yes, that is indeed Robin Curtis, portraying Saavik using traditional prosthetic makeup to age her up.

The relevance to this conversation is that a much easier way now exists to make actors appear as they were 20 years ago. And that same technique could also be used to simply bring a new actor in altogether wearing the digital mask, with the original actors permission of course.

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Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread into a discussion about Unification, I just wanted to note how easy it would be to bring Gandalf and Frodo into The Hunt for Gollum.

Unification discussion...


Roddenberry archive.
Be warned --one can spend hours here getting lost in their faithful recreation of starship bridges and the DS9 Promenade and among other locations.
I wished the video had captions. I assume that was Robin Cirtis and a son of Sarek?
 
If you haven't already, you should check out this production from OTOY, the company behind the amazing Roddenberry archive and the above clip of Saavik. It was made with the cooperation of Paramount and has William Shatner and Leonard Nimoy's widow listed as executive producers.

The story is... vague and open to interpretation by the viewer and ties in with the other shorts that they have produced. As noted in the Saavik clip, the lack of dialogue was a deliberate choice and the whole idea came from a feeling from the people at OTOY that Kirk and Spock deserved to have a final farewell between them.

All three versions of Kirk are portrayed by Sam Witwer and Spock by Lawrence Sellek, but with the digital mask technology used as seen above, they are near indistinguishable from Shatner and Nimoy, and it was shot in real time without post production.

According to Sam Witwer, the whole point of the endeavor is to give actors and their families a way to own and copyright their own image and likeness in perpetuity, so it can't be used without their permission.

And to top it all off, the end result, as seen in Unification, actually comes off looking much better than Luke Skywalker did in The Mandalorian or John Delancey did in those first few moments that we saw him as Q in Picard season two.

And yes, that is Gary Lockwood reprising his role as Gary Mitchell from the second Star Trek pilot, Where No Man Has gone before. And yes, that is indeed Robin Curtis, portraying Saavik using traditional prosthetic makeup to age her up.

The relevance to this conversation is that a much easier way now exists to make actors appear as they were 20 years ago. And that same technique could also be used to simply bring a new actor in altogether wearing the digital mask, with the original actors permission of course.

To view this content we will need your consent to set third party cookies.
For more detailed information, see our cookies page.

Anyway, I don't want to derail this thread into a discussion about Unification, I just wanted to note how easy it would be to bring Gandalf and Frodo into The Hunt for Gollum.

Unification discussion...


Roddenberry archive.
Be warned --one can spend hours here getting lost in their faithful recreation of starship bridges and the DS9 Promenade and among other locations.
I've seen the Unification short, which I thought was really cool, I just didn't realize the Saavik clip was related to it. I love their ship recreations, I've been on there quite a few times wandering around their different ships and stuff. I was actually just on earlier this week after they added a whole bunch of new locations.
Yeah, I only brought it up to highlight the tech involved, not the story itself.


But Aragorn is an entirely different matter. Aragorn is a vital and central part of the story. Viggo Mortensen has said he would consider returning if "they took his age into account", which can be interpreted a couple of different ways, but he is surely aware of the timeline of the story. He has also said that it depends on the script.
I would not be at all surprised if they ended up recasting Aragorn, he's probably going to be a fairly big part of the movie, I'm not sure if they'd want to have deage Viggo Mortensen the whole time.
 
I wished the video had captions. I assume that was Robin Cirtis and a son of Sarek?
That was Robin Curtis as Saavik and Spock's son, picking up the dropped plotline from Star Trek IV that Saavik had become pregnant from Spock during the Pon Farr sequence in Star Trek III. But let's not derail this thread as the only relevance here is the technology, not the story.
 
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