Spoilers The Fantastic Four: First Steps grade and discussion thread
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Plus there are visual references to West Germany.
Ben and Alicia got married in the current comics.
I honestly thought that Reed's plan to teleport the Earth would be what would get them into the Sacred Timeline, as in the teleport would work so well that their Earth would be in the same solar system as main MCU's Earth and it would be their answer to Counter-Earth on the other side of the Sun.
I thought the same thing (aside from the Counter-Earth concept) but I think that was a deliberate red herring and a neat wink at fan expectations.
Have you seen John's new handlebar mustache in the comics?
WTF?
Briefly I was actually wondering if they had to do that to match with the new movie.
The Human Pornstache
Personally, when talking dimensional travel - yeah, it could cause some time slippage.
Remember that episode of Sliders where they were on a parallel Earth where that particular Earth traveled around their sun a few seconds slower than Earth Prime, which is why that weeks exciting installment of this very popular TV serial seemed to be happening 7 years in the past, where Quinn Mallory taught a much younger teen Quinn doppleganger to keep his shit buttoned down?
Or The Defiant from TOS ending up in Archer's Mirror Universe?
Sorry.
I had to rush over to the theatre and commandeer the projection booth, under threat of noogie, to scan through the movie quickly, looking for evidence of time and date, apologies, I have to cut this short because the police have the building surrounded, and...
I didn't see the bit about West Germany, which in of itself would not lock down an era for me, considering so many other things could be different like how Nixon was still President in the Watchmen's 1985, but The Copyright for the Ted Gilbert show near the beginning, in very fine print is stated as "MCMLXIV".
Earlier I was trying to think where it was that two crack pots on either end of a wormhole were complaining about a peculiar phase variance that turned out to be a 22 year time shift...
Voyager, Eye of the Needle.
Anyway.
I'm stupid. You're smart. I was wrong. You were right. You're the best. I'm the worst. You're very good-looking. I'm not very attractive.
Well, the movie had about as good an opening as they could hope for: 118 DOM, 218 WW.
Foreign box office was weak, which is the story of the season. FF's OW was around 5% better overseas than Superman's, while falling almost 6% short of the latter's domestic total.
Foreign box office was weak, which is the story of the season. FF's OW was around 5% better overseas than Superman's, while falling almost 6% short of the latter's domestic total.
People focus too much on box office numbers. In about 6-9 months, streaming revenue will be taken into account to see how successful it was financially. I see the conversation I had with my cinema buddy across the board. "Do you wanna see this in the theaters or wait till it's in *insert streaming service*?"
This is how it is right now. Studios know this. People living in 2004 still believe box office is the most important. And even then, studios knew that home media sales would ultimately determine how well the movie did.
Don't care about box office.
Don't care about legacy.
It was boring and the cast slept walked thru the entire movie.
I never once felt any chemistry from these four. It was apparent that they were four actors collecting a paycheck and ticking "be in a Marvel movie" off of their bucket list.
I gave it a C.
Don't care about legacy.
It was boring and the cast slept walked thru the entire movie.
I never once felt any chemistry from these four. It was apparent that they were four actors collecting a paycheck and ticking "be in a Marvel movie" off of their bucket list.
I gave it a C.
Follow-up on previous comments - I have little invested in the characters or history but really wanted to like it. But did not. The point of no return was after they confronted Galactus in space. That whole sequence was great. I was getting Star Trek The Motion Picture vibes. Similar to the scope of V’ger. But after that nothing works for me. The flimsy drama of choosing their son over the world. So little time is spent on that and their decision inevitable - really no point. The solution - either very idea or execution was out of a b movie. Galactus himself on Earth. I know he is a really big guy in a suit but the staging really feels B movie. My introduction to that character was Alex Ross’s paintings in Marvels. This felt so small and cheap compared to that.
As much as this is “ self contained movie” it felt like going through motions to setup characters for future crossovers.
Not that it matters but I was excited for director because I have been a fan since he was child actor on Just the Ten of us.
EDIT keep forgetting to add that this reminds of how I felt about Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. Which I should have loved because of the time period and retro design. But I felt no connection with the characters. Just actors used as automatons going from one random event to another.
As much as this is “ self contained movie” it felt like going through motions to setup characters for future crossovers.
Not that it matters but I was excited for director because I have been a fan since he was child actor on Just the Ten of us.
EDIT keep forgetting to add that this reminds of how I felt about Sky Captain and the World of Tomorrow. Which I should have loved because of the time period and retro design. But I felt no connection with the characters. Just actors used as automatons going from one random event to another.
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THAT'S what I was thinking of the whole time I saw that sequence! I kept thinking "this reminds me of something". Yes, it reminded me a lot of the end of TMP when Ilia takes them to the V'Ger core.
Me too.
That was my favorite scene in the movie. In fact, the entire space sequence was really great. It reminded me of Farscape, where you have this great moment but all hell is breaking loose around them. There was also a sense of wonder to that scene that seemed missing in the rest of the movie (Though, brought back a little to give us Surfer's backstory).
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Probably not, Feige and co have already said that doing a soft reboot, technically they called it a "reset" but it sounds like it'll be a soft reboot, after Secret Wars, and most people are assuming one of the changes is that the FF will be moving over to Earth 616/The Sacred Timeline.
I thought that too.
I don't know if the Power Cosmic has really been defined in the comics, it seems to be just kind of a generic power source that is a quick way to give space based heroes their powers.
