DS9: Redefined 2.0 - The Ultimate DS9 Upscale Project

[evilchumlee]

The above Sisko example is not "slightly off". It's a completely new image that only resembles the original.

I meant "slightly off" more in the vein of "doesn't look quite natural", not in the vein of "slightly altered image".

As an artist and a writer myself, the idea that someone could just take my work and run it through a soulless computer filter with no effort on their part and claim the output as their own is more than disquieting, and a touch disgusting to me.

That's why we have copyright laws.

Take this exact example. If I were to try to sell the image created by the AI of Sisko here... i'm in violation of copyright laws.

If the AI took your work and changed it adequately to not be recognizable enough to be covered by copyright laws? That really should not effect you in any way. It's really not functionally different than a human taking your work and changing the details enough to skirt past copyright law.

AI is amazing, and will allow amazing things to be done. Yeah, there will be a period of adjustment for creators... and those who fight the hardest against it are going to be the ones who lose the most. Technology moves on, times change, video kills the radio star.

 

[danielshock]

Regarding the ChatGPT image and how it doesn't quite look like the people in the real frame. I don't think ChatGPT is allowed to make EXACT representations of people. I think it's always slightly changed. Everytime I have given it an example photo of a person, the head is slightly bigger, the smile is different. It's that way by policy not by capability.

 

[kkt]

/s Maybe the AI could put consistent NCO's stripes on O'Brien's collar... /s

 

[TribbleAgent]

I'm new to the forum and I've been keeping an eye on this project because I find it really valuable and interesting. I was wondering though - are they recording their progress anywhere other than the wordpress site? The last update there was in February and I'd love to hear how much further along they've progressed.

 

[DSG2k]

are they recording their progress anywhere other than the wordpress site?

There are at least two such projects/individuals posting updates that I am aware of. One is still posting updates to X/Twitter at https://x.com/Ds9Redefined, whereas the other was doing so last year under the handle Kraz3yIvan but is now at https://web-cdn.bsky.app/profile/kraz3yivan.bsky.social

 

[TribbleAgent]

There are at least two such projects/individuals posting updates that I am aware of. One is still posting updates to X/Twitter at https://x.com/Ds9Redefined, whereas the other was doing so last year under the handle Kraz3yIvan but is now at https://web-cdn.bsky.app/profile/kraz3yivan.bsky.social

Bookmarked. Thank you very much for the links!

 

[DarthTimon]

I love the idea of upscaling DS9. Seeing some of those battles from the Dominion War in the finest possible resolutions is drool-worthy!

 

[DS9 Redefined]

Hey all! I'm heading up the DS9 Redefined project. I haven't read through this whole thread but wanted pop in and answer any questions.

 

[ADz83]

Hey all! I'm heading up the DS9 Redefined project. I haven't read through this whole thread but wanted pop in and answer any questions.

Hi, do you have an official site/log for your project? Is live to follow.

 

[DS9 Redefined]

Hi, do you have an official site/log for your project? Is live to follow.

https://ds9redefined.wordpress.com is the official site, though I only really update it every few months and there's plenty of the pages that need updated again. I find it takes up more time than I'd like to fill out many details there, time I'd rather spend working on the project itself.

 

[SarcasticVulcanSalute]

Thank you for your updates and hard work, not just on DS9, but for old TV shows in general (the colors format conversion) - amazing couple of comparisons!
It's a shame that media conservation of the source files has such a low priority for the big studios and networks.
As for DS9 redefined, I hope we'll be able to see DS9 one day in that quality somehow.

 

[SarcasticVulcanSalute]

@DS9 Redefined

For obvious legal reasons you can't share your completed work.

I'm wondering if it would be possible and if there is any desire to publish an instruction set - say for lots of latinum bars coffees:
you need tool A, B and C, then apply exactly these settings XYZ to your own episode files for all/each individual episodes to make it look like yours,
and in such a way that a somewhat digitally savvy person can follow and achieve results like yours?

 

[DS9 Redefined]

@DS9 Redefined
I'm wondering if it would be possible and if there is any desire to publish an instruction set - say for lots of latinum bars coffees:

So there ends up being a lot of variables, a lot of different issues, and we keep finding new things that modify the workflow (such as the color standards issue) and so making a guide to produce exactly my results would take as much time as the project itself. I have written a sort of high-level workflow guide though.