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Jayru (JSnaith's) 3D Trek

Right, the larger (or multiple sizes) were never in doubt, IMHO. The version with the docking port in TNG cemented the Apollo-sized Oberth for me.
Thank you :-)


Right... small pause today as we finish emptying the kitchen for tomorrow. I'm not one to sit on my backside and do nothing, so even if it's making the boxes, I will be doing something to help.

In terms of the Apollo, I'm going to add some extra detail to the greebles above the impulse engine that are in keeping with the studio model. I'm also going to redo the torpedo/prob launcher - change the shape of the bay, and reduce it to one launcher and not two, as it currently is. Then finish off the hanger and cargo bays. Then I'll do the orthographic renders and start breaking down the deck layout.

For those curious, the new laptop still hasn't tried to kill me, or even threatened to do me any harm. The AI is actually being useful.

More soon.
 
I like your work. And don't back out like that guy, who starts up the Excelsior from time to time.

Awe. I love the double Photon Torpedoes.
Thank you.

I can't make promises about my health and life around me - all I can do is do my best. The Apollo will be finished, just not as quickly as I would like, lol. Reworking the house was always on the cards this year and takes priority, and as for my health... that takes priority over everything.

I have a number of projects I've started, but not (yet) finished. I will get round to things. Autism and ADHD mean my concentration can be all over the place at times, and hyper-focused on others. At the moment, we have a window of hyper-focus.

Yes, I keep having to remind myself that the Apollo is a Science Cruiser, not a Heavy Cruiser. Reducing the torpedo launchers to one makes sense in that regard. It also frees up some internal space as well, which could be useful in the long run. My feeling on crew size for this ship is that it's between 225 and 275. But until I get the deck plans done, I can't say for sure.

More soon.
 
Updates - Hanger and cargo bays done. I need to build my own workbee, a couple of which will sit on the pads in the cargo bays -

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That is amazing work!

Looks like the cargo and shuttle bays are matching up nicely to the doors and the scale of the ship. They actually look like they belong to the ship.

She'll look great in Daz.
 
That is amazing work!

Looks like the cargo and shuttle bays are matching up nicely to the doors and the scale of the ship. They actually look like they belong to the ship.

She'll look great in Daz.
Thank you.

Of course, this project has always been about keeping as much of the look of the Oberth as possible, just making it work.
 
I think that this would have been a better ship, than the Intrepid class USS Voyager. For Star Trek: Voyager... especially if as original build Transwarp ship per the FASA Star Trek III The Search For Spock supplement. Why? Warp Factor 13 cruising speed; warp factor 15 emergency speed, while on conventional warp drive, warp factor 7 cruising speed, and warp factor eight, emergency.
 
I think that this would have been a better ship, than the Intrepid class USS Voyager. For Star Trek: Voyager... especially if as original build Transwarp ship per the FASA Star Trek III The Search For Spock supplement. Why? Warp Factor 13 cruising speed; warp factor 15 emergency speed, while on conventional warp drive, warp factor 7 cruising speed, and warp factor eight, emergency.
Thank you.

Well... FASA and I are going to have to disagree over this ship having Transwarp. As her (re)designer and the Chief Architect of this iteration, I can say she doesn't have a transwarp drive, and is slower than a Heavy Cruiser. But she can stay out in the field for longer.

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Tomorrow? I start work on the workbees that will sit in the two cargo holds. And then... Beauty shots, and then... Deck plans :-)

More tomorrow.
 
I would agree that it shouldn't have transwarp. At least, not during the era in which they were first seen. Maybe long after TSFS all ships would have been fitted/retrofitted with the new tech, stuffing it into the smaller nacelle housings somehow, but the super-low registry number of the Grissom implies that Oberth's are of a generally lower tech level than her 23rd century contemporaries, with maybe the occasional upgrades to the sensor packages and the bridge modules to control them.
 
I would agree that it shouldn't have transwarp. At least, not during the era in which they were first seen. Maybe long after TSFS all ships would have been fitted/retrofitted with the new tech, stuffing it into the smaller nacelle housings somehow, but the super-low registry number of the Grissom implies that Oberth's are of a generally lower tech level than her 23rd century contemporaries, with maybe the occasional upgrades to the sensor packages and the bridge modules to control them.
With Transwarp being so experimental at the time, and a failure (canon-wise), I don't see why it would ever be installed on another ship frame. Of course, I've long argued that transwarp wasn't a failure - that it paved the way for the new warp scale used in TNG, where warp 10 was an absolute. In terms of how that would impact the Apollo, I don't see her ever breaking speed records; she would have an average cruising speed (warp) and an average maximum warp threshold.

The lower registration is problematic with the Oberth in general. TMP introduces two other ships with low registration numbers as well. I think the current consensus is that reg numbers were tied to a ships class, not the order they were built. Again, I've long argued that this doesn't fit with on-screen, but creating ship with a reg in the rang of 16xx,17xx,18xx,19xx, 20xx, 21xx, etc, would have caused a shit storm on here, lol - so I kept it to a low number, Yes, it requires a change in thinking, but given my age (mid-fifties) I don't need the drama; it's just a model of a ship at the end of the day.

In terms of the Apollo - I have some interesting news; she's complete. The workbee is done, need to share some images. Pulled an all-nighter to get things tidied up. Going to grab a cup of tea, some toast and hit the hay, then... Renders galor.

Deck plans are next, but going to take a few days before I start them.

More later.
 
Oh she's coming along nicely..

I can't wait to see her in Daz and hopefully your other ships that are coming along also. I have Dennis Bailey's Connie refit so I am hopeful that your Oberth and the others will fit in nicely with that color palette.

I have Dave Metlesit's workbee collection and they work nicely with the above mentioned Connie so I am excited to see what you come up with.
 
Oh she's coming along nicely..

I can't wait to see her in Daz and hopefully your other ships that are coming along also. I have Dennis Bailey's Connie refit so I am hopeful that your Oberth and the others will fit in nicely with that color palette.

I have Dave Metlesit's workbee collection and they work nicely with the above mentioned Connie so I am excited to see what you come up with.
Converting to Daz is something I need to think about. Never done it before.

I have a Constitution that uses the same colour palette. And various other movie era ships as well, lol. It is quite a library.

I had fun building the bee, until I realised I'd already started it before this project for the Connie I'm building, so I was able to finish that off, then build an arm for it, and a cargo train and cargo pods. Still, it's done. I have them and can use them as needed.

Off for a nice cup of tea, maybe an apple, and then.. some rest.

More later.
 
You can simply export the model as OBJ or FBX. Daz can import both. So can Blender.

It will make your models easier for Daz or any other modeling software that can handle OBJ or FBX :)
 
You can simply export the model as OBJ or FBX. Daz can import both. So can Blender.

It will make your models easier for Daz or any other modeling software that can handle OBJ or FBX :)
I'll look into it, but it's not top of the list at the moment.

First pass at the bridge layout before I start on deck plans...

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More soon.


PS: Yes, updates are going to be slow. When it's 34c outside, I switch off both machines, grab a tall glass of iced tea and read. You can't blame me, lol.
 
I'll look into it, but it's not top of the list at the moment.

First pass at the bridge layout before I start on deck plans...

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More soon.


PS: Yes, updates are going to be slow. When it's 34c outside, I switch off both machines, grab a tall glass of iced tea and read. You can't blame me, lol.
Can't blame you at all. I do the same when the 3D printer really gets going and it's super hot here,

Will the bridge be a smaller version of a full scale Constitution refit one? Looks like it's coming along nicely again and maybe you can use the same bridge on some of your other TMP era ships like a modular style one.
 
Can't blame you at all. I do the same when the 3D printer really gets going and it's super hot here,

Will the bridge be a smaller version of a full scale Constitution refit one? Looks like it's coming along nicely again and maybe you can use the same bridge on some of your other TMP era ships like a modular style one.
The bridge is the same size as a refit TMP Connie - the beauty of scaling up the design is that I am not robbed of space. Although, this is a room that sits in the centre of deck one, there is a corridor around it and rooms off them. I would imagine that Starfleet simply replace all of deck one when changing the bridge, or something similar.
 
The bridge is the same size as a refit TMP Connie - the beauty of scaling up the design is that I am not robbed of space. Although, this is a room that sits in the centre of deck one, there is a corridor around it and rooms off them. I would imagine that Starfleet simply replace all of deck one when changing the bridge, or something similar.
That would make all kinds of supply and logistical sense. Swap out the entire bridge as one piece to change the ship's nerve center for a specific mission type or just swap out bits and pieces. Either way an ingenious solution.

I read somewhere years ago that there were fan theories about that. Starfleet bridges being made along modular lines.
 
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