Likewise, as those eras are the only ones for which I read tie-ins. But I wonder-- does the introduction of a 'new' Kirk, Scott on SNW indicate that a TOS-era show will be paramount's post-SNW play, and if so does that mean that we're at the end of the road for actual TOS tie-ins? (This question for general discussion only; I'm not asking a writer to comment on their livelihood). It may be a distinction without a difference for some, but personally I would not be interested in a tie-in to a 're-imagined' 2260s novel.Broken record poster wants more TOS and TOS movie era novels.
Likewise, as those eras are the only ones for which I read tie-ins. But I wonder-- does the introduction of a 'new' Kirk, Scott on SNW indicate that a TOS-era show will be paramount's post-SNW play, and if so does that mean that we're at the end of the road for actual TOS tie-ins? (This question for general discussion only; I'm not asking a writer to comment on their livelihood). It may be a distinction without a difference for some, but personally I would not be interested in a tie-in to a 're-imagined' 2260s novel.
(Of course, paramount may well have no post-SNW play in mind at all)
Sure, it's possible that the novel covers would use the new cast and ship design for marketing purposes, but the characters inside would still be Kirk, Spock, etc. regardless of how they looked on the cover.
Maybe they'll mix-and-match, the way the early Pocket TOS novels did, having characters and ships from the series and the movie put together all willy-nilly.
(An idea I've heard, inspired by Paul Wesley's age, was that an SNW sequel series might do a big time-skip and be set post-TMP.)
Yeah, now that we've gotten the story of how Seven joined the Fenris Rangers, this is probably my most wanted Picard story.I have to take this back. I would love to see a Worf novel that takes him from the Enterprise E to where he is in Picard season 3. I loved where we found Worf in season 3 and felt that this was the journey he's always been on since Heart of Glory, "The true test of a warrior is not without, it is within!"
If it's an actual full on reboot, then we'd probably get books using based off of both versions, we already saw this happen with the Kelvin Universe movies, even after they came out we still got TOS book, and while we didn't get Kelvin books until after the movies were over, we did have both TOS and Kelvin comics coming out at the same time. So Paramount/CBS clearly doesn't have a problem with tie-ins set in two different Universes at the same time. If the new show is in the Prime Universe before or after TOS, then which version of the cast and ship are used would probably depend on when it's set, if it's set during TOS they'd use it's versions and if it's set in the during the new show they'd use those versions.Likewise, as those eras are the only ones for which I read tie-ins. But I wonder-- does the introduction of a 'new' Kirk, Scott on SNW indicate that a TOS-era show will be paramount's post-SNW play, and if so does that mean that we're at the end of the road for actual TOS tie-ins? (This question for general discussion only; I'm not asking a writer to comment on their livelihood). It may be a distinction without a difference for some, but personally I would not be interested in a tie-in to a 're-imagined' 2260s novel.
(Of course, paramount may well have no post-SNW play in mind at all)
should this thread be merged together with that other one?
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I do. The Spock, Chapel, Uhura, Gorn, T'Pring and Kirk (and to a lesser extent Pike) of SNW are not the same as those of TOS, by design. Not merely the actors (no kidding) but the characterizations and backstories as well. That is neither surprising nor objectionable; a 2025 production need not be beholden to a 1966 one. But for some of us it means the loss of at least a portion of the things that got us to love Star Trek in the first place. For me, TOS is a distinct idiom that can't be recaptured simply by naming characters Kirk, Spock, McCoy etc.I don't see the distinction.
For what it's worth, one such novel was already sort of written about fifteen years ago. According to the author's note in the novel Children of Kings, a Pike era TOS novel from 2010, the intent was to write a novel that could take place in either the Prime or Kelvin timeline, with the author even claiming his depiction of Pike in that novel was based on Bruce Greenwood, although an image of Jeffrey Hunter was used on the cover. Granted, there are aspects of the narrative which make it clear it's supposed to be in the Prime Universe, or at least not the Kelvin Timeline, such as the Enterprise having bathtubs, Robert April being mentioned to have commanded the Enterprise prior to Pike and even an explanation for why they were using paper printouts in The Cage.If what you are saying is that you think you can write a book that is ambiguous enough to be both a TOS tie-in and a SNWified Kirk & Co. tie-in (as per the preferences of the individual reader) I have my doubts,
I do. The Spock, Chapel, Uhura, Gorn, T'Pring and Kirk (and to a lesser extent Pike) of SNW are not the same as those of TOS, by design. Not merely the actors (no kidding) but the characterizations and backstories as well.
If what you are saying is that you think you can write a book that is ambiguous enough to be both a TOS tie-in and a SNWified Kirk & Co. tie-in (as per the preferences of the individual reader) I have my doubts, but hey you're the writer--I'll give it a chance before I pass judgment.
Fair enough.
But this isn't a novel for a beloved 20th century Trek show, this is a book about one of those mayfly streaming shows that lasted, what, 3 seasons of 10 eps each?
This sub discussion is potentially disturbing to me. Assuming TOS+movie novels continue after SNW S5,will the characters be written as they were in TOS, or evolved SNW versions? Plus will the ship be depicted and function as a TOS Connie or the SNW version?
Minor bits of decor -- like holographic displays -- are just set dressing. They're not going to change the stories significantly.
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