No, they're telling I'm wrong.
I'll accept it today.
Look, imagine Kirk being filmed like the Enterprise in that scene, same shots, multiple passes, wordless reaction.
If it works for you, great. I find it odd as a scene, as placed, as paced.
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I'll accept it today.
If it works for you, great. I find it odd as a scene, as placed, as paced.
If you only see it in that context, then you’re telling everyone engaging with you that they are wrong. There is no “right or wrong”, just differing opinions based on the material.
I'm being told I don't understand film, the emotional reaction to the scene, or to treat the Enterprise as a character.
I've never said "don't like this scene, everyone! Stop being sheep and buying what Big Star Trek is telling you!"
When you don't feel heard and people are misconstruing your point I'm not defensive but exhausted.
Clearly not a valid point of view. I'm good with it.
End of the day, it only matters if it is valid to you. I’ve gotten the hose more than once for saying I don’t see SNW and TOS as being the same timeline.
People disagree, life goes on.
Consider me one of those guys who agrees with you on SNW & TOS not being in the same Timeline.
And that's fine IMO. It doesn't change the enjoyment factor of either show.
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Well, ships are identified as "she". At least in the United States. "They wear a great deal of of paint, have a great many men around them, and give a mighty argument." As the old adage says"Man, it takes them forever to show off the ship. The starship porn is ridiculous."
It was 1979. They spent $46 million on that movie in 1978 and 1979 dollars. They'd never had those kind of filmmaking resources to depict the Enterprise. We were getting starship porn.
$46M in 1978 USD is ~$225,625,061.35 in 2025 USD.
What does this have to do with starship porn?
Two nacelles, one travel pod.
Why? This is supposed to be fun. In the world we currently live in, it is nice to have discussions where the weight of the world or our own acceptance isn’t in question.
If someone walks away from these conversations feeling bad or uncomfortable, then we as a community have failed.
It's not that kind of porn, yanno.
We need a distraction! Ladies and gentleman, the human country-western singing artist, Mr. Conway Twitty!
Hardly. I hold myself to a higher standard of communication is all.
Was a little passive aggressive in my response and I defaulted to sarcasm.
It's not a reflection on the community.
Regarding “cutsie fanfic Trek”,I don’t even consider it the same genre as TOS.
I treat it like Shakespeare productions. It's still Denmark even if it's a stage play.
Usually because they aren’t trying to be in continuity with one version from sixty-plus years ago.
I mean, Denmark is still Denmark.
Enterprise is still an Enterprise.
Phasers still phase.
Transporters still transport.
Warp drive still warping.
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