Spoilers The Last of Us Season 2 - Spoilers
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That's the beauty of the show because they can expand to show more. I love that Druckman is getting a second chance to explore his story and make some changes he and the others think would work well for the show, the Bill & Frank episode being currently the best change.
Keeps also players of the game engaged if it isn't just a 1:1 recreation of the game.
No disagreement from me, hence why I assumed what I did.
Bit disappointed (but not surprised) to see some nastiness coming from certain corners after this episode. A lot of people became so fixated on the "injustice" of Joel's death - as if it were a giant troll by Druckmann - that they stopped paying attention to the story being told.
This happens when you have extremely popular stars that get written out for story purposes. People lose track of the story and just want to see the star.
Can happen the other way too when a show is afraid of cutting loose a popular character and keep them around for longer than they should have, this happend on Game of Thrones in the latter seasons when everybody got plot armor.
Ever read the comment section on TV Line? Every time someone gets killed off, there are vocal people who threaten to stop watching (9-1-1 being a recent one). Some of them are upset over an NCIS: Origins death which absolutely has to happen in order for everything on NCIS to make sense and threatening to stop watching if said character stays dead.
Every time a TV show gets canceled, they threaten to stop watching everything on that network (but they never do, otherwise they would've stopped years ago and never would've even started the current show they claim they'll stop watching).
A lot of TV viewers are not rational people. If they were, they wouldn't ask George Clooney and Noah Wylie for medical advice.
Every time a TV show gets canceled, they threaten to stop watching everything on that network (but they never do, otherwise they would've stopped years ago and never would've even started the current show they claim they'll stop watching).
A lot of TV viewers are not rational people. If they were, they wouldn't ask George Clooney and Noah Wylie for medical advice.
I said it earlier upthread that I've never played the game so I was pleasantly surprised to see that it was set partially in Seattle, but does anyone here know why the software developers chose Seattle?
I've lived in the Puget Sound region all my life, and, if anything, Seattle is the last location I would want to try and survive in.
The geography/topography make it almost impossible to defend from attack.
It's not like Manhattan Island in Escape from New York, where you can conceivably build a wall around it.
Yes, there's Puget Sound, Lake Union and Lake Washington that border the city, but there's also Capitol Hill, Queen Anne Hill and West Seattle to contend with.
If anything, the developers should have chosen one of the islands in Puget Sound.
McNeil Island in particular, South of Tacoma, would have been an ideal location.
It's a nature preserve that, until 2011, was home to the McNeil Island Penitentiary, which housed the most violent and dangerous criminals in the State of Washington.
There's still a small staff that maintains the facilities, but it's only accessible by a short ferry ride.
I've lived in the Puget Sound region all my life, and, if anything, Seattle is the last location I would want to try and survive in.
The geography/topography make it almost impossible to defend from attack.
It's not like Manhattan Island in Escape from New York, where you can conceivably build a wall around it.
Yes, there's Puget Sound, Lake Union and Lake Washington that border the city, but there's also Capitol Hill, Queen Anne Hill and West Seattle to contend with.
If anything, the developers should have chosen one of the islands in Puget Sound.
McNeil Island in particular, South of Tacoma, would have been an ideal location.
It's a nature preserve that, until 2011, was home to the McNeil Island Penitentiary, which housed the most violent and dangerous criminals in the State of Washington.
There's still a small staff that maintains the facilities, but it's only accessible by a short ferry ride.
This was a great episode, it was nice to get some new backstory for Isaac that wasn't in the game. I'm glad they managed to work Ellie's guitar playing into the show.
It's pretty impressive how well they're recreating the sets from the game, like the TV station and the theater.
We got some nice development of Ellie and Dina's relationship.
It looks like Shimmer might be getting a different fate than she did in the game.
That reminds me have we seen any signs of Alice anywhere yet?
It's pretty impressive how well they're recreating the sets from the game, like the TV station and the theater.
We got some nice development of Ellie and Dina's relationship.
I'm pretty sure I saw Abbie in the trailer for next week's episode, so I think we're going to start getting some more with her, I think we just might see some other character's get episodes between hers. Gabriel Luna and Young Mazino are both in the credits, so I'm assuming we'll be seeng them again before the end of the season. With the way this is going, I doubt they'll show up in Seattle before next season, so I have a feeling we'll cut back to them in Jackson Hole at some point.
It looks like Shimmer might be getting a different fate than she did in the game.
That reminds me have we seen any signs of Alice anywhere yet?
It makes sense that people might stop watching if their favorite character is no longer in the show. Still not the most crazy way of losing viewers. "Felicity" started getting bad ratings after Keri Russell got a haircut. Then sometimes shows loose ratings when a show continues on despite the main story being solved ike 'Twin Peaks" or "Flight Attendant" or "Prison Break."
It is disheartening to see Ellie being so blinded by rage and revenge that she is not thinking clear. Infilitrating a WLF stronghold all by herself is the height of stupidity but then again Ellie was always highly emotional and those who love her are incapable of reigning her in and she puts others in danger but she just can't or won't see it.
Given that the trailers already gave it away that Ellie knew what Joel did the reveal today fell kinda flat but her taking up that lead pipe and letting loose was still shocking to see.
Given that the trailers already gave it away that Ellie knew what Joel did the reveal today fell kinda flat but her taking up that lead pipe and letting loose was still shocking to see.
Not that i consider it a huge spoiler as the story and show is clearly working towards it but recently i watched a behind the scenes video for the last episode and for some reason they showed a short sequence of Ramsey and Dever rehearsing a hand to hand/gun fight, so there will be a at least that fight happening this season.
Usually clips like these tend to avoid spoilers but here apparently someone didn't think it through.
Usually clips like these tend to avoid spoilers but here apparently someone didn't think it through.
I had assumed she was going to leave her to turn, so I was surprised when she went for the pipe instead. I don't remember how her confrontation with Mel played out in the game, so I can't really compare that.
I was a little surprised Jesse showed up, because I had thought he showed up later in the story in the game.
I had completely forgotten that the airborn spores weren't a part of the show, because they were a big part of the games going all the way back to the beginning of Part I.
Yeah, that it's surprising they'd ruin such a big moment so soon.
I guess I was wrong before, and they are following the same structure of the game with this season being Ellie's story arc, and next season being Abby's. It will be interesting to see how the TV only people react to spending a whole season with Abby and her friends, and barely seeing Ellie, Dina, Tommy, ect.
Well I am glad Joel isn't really dead. Turns out it was all just a bad dream Ellie had!
Well spotted! All that was missing was Patrick Duffy and his burly chest exiting the shower.
Bad shit happens to regular folk all the time; this show just doesn't shy any from it happening to Our Heroes™, which continues to infuriate.
I think it's revealing how we consume media. For me, I've always taken a gods-eye view and attempted to soak in what the creator's story is.
Case in point, some Game of Thrones reactors on YT I used to follow went apoplectic after The Winds of Winter. Yeah, Cersei was a hateful bitch, but how could you not appreciate the spectacle? I don't pick sides - it's a bloody TV show. I just don't quite get why people start picking sides and end up missing the forest for the trees; Had we followed Abby from the get-go. we'd be cheering Joel's death.
And Joel knew. He gave Abby a slight nod before the ... incident. He knew damn well the consequences and that the sins of his past could always rear their ugly head.
FFS, some gamers took Joel's death more personally than the death of a real-life family member.
I'm enjoying it and this rendition of Eliie. I will say, there feels like a bit more hand holding compared with the game. I always say, trust your audience. Perhaps with an audience as large as TLOU has influenced the adaption.
The red room scene was a big one, but Ramsey pulled it off.
That they're seemingly following the narrative model of the game in the live-action adaption is bold; I wonder if Craig and Neil flung around different approaches in the writers' room before realizing you'd lose the vibe inherent to the game and turn it into something generic.
I fear they will lose people if they follow the game's story and setup.
As anecdotal as it is in my circle of friends the interest about Last of Us has cooled off considerably since Joel's death. People simply don't seem to either be interested in the larger story or theme or they don't get it ( maybe yet) and it may be unfair to everybody else in the show but it seems a big draw was simply Pascal in the role of Joel and his dynamic with Bella Ramsey, that is gone now and as much as i like Dina/Merced she is not able to replace Pascal.
Merced is going to be a huge star but I agree. It's just not the same without Joel on the show. Also just to much , of what feels like CW romance. The show should feel more hardcore I feel. I mean the idea of someone going across the country in a zombie wasteland to seek revenge and probably die in the process feels like it should be way more tense or edgy or something. Instead the characters are acting like it's a fun camping trip where every once in awhile they got to kill something but then it's back to singing and making jokes.
I suspect we will see Joel again ( and again)
And what exactly is a "CW romance?" Any two people in a relationship?
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Yeah, I do too, which is part of why I was expecting them to change up the structure for the show.
I think TV fans are a lot more drawn to specific characters and actors than gamers are, and after seeing so little of Pedro Pascale/Joel, to then go almost a whole season seeing so little of Bella Ramsey/Ellie too, might turn off a lot of the fans who have been watching it because of them.
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