Picard's son???

[RobertScorpio]

Would you have been in favor of the plot turn that Wesly was Picard's son? I would have been. I think it might have explained Q's interest in Picard at the start.Maybe he knew, down the line, Wesely would evolve into some kind of special being as well.

Rob

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Nah, it would've been too Soap Opera-ish of a twist. I'd rather that they'd spent more time developing the surrogate father-son relationship, and having it tested several times as Wesley began coming into his own as an officer.

 

[Red Ranger]

Nah, it would've been too Soap Opera-ish of a twist. I'd rather that they'd spent more time developing the surrogate father-son relationship, and having it tested several times as Wesley began coming into his own as an officer.

I'm with you, middyseafort. I just think Picard felt a bond with Wesley simply because he was the son of two good friends, not because he thought he might actually be Wes's father. -- RR

 

[Whoa Nellie]

It would have been hokey, contrived, and downright absurd. But for some odd reason a lot of people seem to be enamored with the idea of Wesley being the result of an adulterous tryst between Picard and Beverly. Let's look at just a few of the ramifications of Wesley being Jean-Luc Picard's and Beverly Crusher's love child.

This means characterizing Picard as a man willing to bed his best friend and fellow officer's wife. No way around it. I know P/C is a favorite shipper pairing to a lot of people so take it out of that context. This is the equivalent of Picard sleeping with Deanna Troi after her marriage to Will Riker in Nemesis.

This would also be characterizing Beverly Crusher as a woman willing to betray her husband with his best friend and commanding officer. (Again, think how it would change Deanna's character if you have her bed Jean-Luc Picard while married to Will Riker.) Beverly would also have to be willing to lie to her husband passing the child of an adulterous tryst off as his.

Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie

 

[erastus25]

It would have been hokey, contrived, and downright absurd. But for some odd reason a lot of people seem to be enamored with the idea of Wesley being the result of an adulterous tryst between Picard and Beverly. Let's look at just a few of the ramifications of Wesley being Jean-Luc Picard's and Beverly Crusher's love child.

This means characterizing Picard as a man willing to bed his best friend and fellow officer's wife. No way around it. I know P/C is a favorite shipper pairing to a lot of people so take it out of that context. This is the equivalent of Picard sleeping with Deanna Troi after her marriage to Will Riker in Nemesis.

This would also be characterizing Beverly Crusher as a woman willing to betray her husband with his best friend and commanding officer. (Again, think how it would change Deanna's character if you have her bed Jean-Luc Picard while married to Will Riker.) Beverly would also have to be willing to lie to her husband passing the child of an adulterous tryst off as his.

Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie

Not necessarily. Perhaps Beverly was impregnated accidentally and started dating Jack before she realized what happened. Then, all three parties decided it would be best not to tell Wes to avoid traumatizing the poor kid. Granted, this theory worked a lot better during season 1 as later episodes make the scenario less likely.

 

[JoeZhang]

Perhaps Beverly was impregnated accidentally

She slipped onto his cock?

I'd find it hard to believe that a Doctor in the 23rd century wouldn't know about birth control....

Then, all three parties decided it would be best not to tell Wes to avoid traumatizing the poor kid. Granted, this theory worked a lot better during season 1 as later episodes make the scenario less likely.

Even during S1, it would make Picard look a complete deadbeat - his Son is on the ship and he prefers to let him think he's fatherless?

 

[CaptainStoner]

I'm on the no side of this question as well. My reason is, it's a more interesting relationship with Picard not being his father. More realistic, and reaches kids who've lost a parent. Having Picard turn out to be his Father would just be cliche and cheesy.

And yeah, it's beyond any remote feasability for a 23rd Century medical professional to be accidentally pregnant.

 

[ladyheather69]

No I don't agree with Wesley being Picard's son either.

Picard was an honorable man and Beverly was an honorable woman. For them to have a trist would have tarnished their characters.

Picard was much better at being a father figure to Wes than actually being his dad.

 

[CorporalClegg]

The real question is why the writers were so insistent to push the subject.

A lot of the particular language in some of the dialog is really obvious like, they were so careful in choosing just the right words as a “wink and a nudge.” This is most obvious in season one though certainly apparent in later years.

 

[Snaploud]

Perhaps Beverly was impregnated accidentally

She slipped onto his cock?

It was a transporter accident.

 

[Ryan Thomas Riddle]

Perhaps Beverly was impregnated accidentally

She slipped onto his cock?

It was a transporter accident.

Picard's dick was beamed into her? Was Janice Rand at the controls?

 

[WillsBabe]

I'm not keen on the revelation that Wes would be Picard's son, pretty much for the reasons Whoa Nellie offered above. When I was watching TNG during its first run and reading all the mags and stuff I don't recall there ever being anything really that suggested that Wes was, or that the writers were hinting at, Wes being the captain's son.

 

[Epsilon IX]

Perhaps a better plot twist was if we found out that Q was Picard's father, and that all his memories of his biological parents were just engrams! That might explain his constant interest in Picard!

 

[Whoa Nellie]

It would have been hokey, contrived, and downright absurd. But for some odd reason a lot of people seem to be enamored with the idea of Wesley being the result of an adulterous tryst between Picard and Beverly. Let's look at just a few of the ramifications of Wesley being Jean-Luc Picard's and Beverly Crusher's love child.

This means characterizing Picard as a man willing to bed his best friend and fellow officer's wife. No way around it. I know P/C is a favorite shipper pairing to a lot of people so take it out of that context. This is the equivalent of Picard sleeping with Deanna Troi after her marriage to Will Riker in Nemesis.

This would also be characterizing Beverly Crusher as a woman willing to betray her husband with his best friend and commanding officer. (Again, think how it would change Deanna's character if you have her bed Jean-Luc Picard while married to Will Riker.) Beverly would also have to be willing to lie to her husband passing the child of an adulterous tryst off as his.

Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie

Not necessarily. Perhaps Beverly was impregnated accidentally and started dating Jack before she realized what happened. Then, all three parties decided it would be best not to tell Wes to avoid traumatizing the poor kid. Granted, this theory worked a lot better during season 1 as later episodes make the scenario less likely.

Interesting transporter accidents aside, first season canon clearly states that Picard met Beverly after she was with Jack. It was one of the questions Walker Keel used to make sure Picard was really who he said he was in the episode "Conspiracy."

Hi, WillsBabe!

Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie

 

[JoeZhang]

The real question is why the writers were so insistent to push the subject.

A lot of the particular language in some of the dialog is really obvious like, they were so careful in choosing just the right words as a “wink and a nudge.” This is most obvious in season one though certainly apparent in later years.

What dialog are you thinking of?

 

[John Vasiliou]

I never really got the impression that Picard was Wesley's father ,or that the writers were ever going in that direction.

Plus that would blow the perfect human image right out the window ,and I don't see Gene allowing that with his mindset at the time.

 

[dave_R_treker]

Picard was good friends with Jack and Bev. Picard was responseable for Jack not coming home. Picard was never Wesley's father, the closest thing would be stepfather (even though Picard and Bev never married).

 

[Danoz]

It would have been hokey, contrived, and downright absurd. But for some odd reason a lot of people seem to be enamored with the idea of Wesley being the result of an adulterous tryst between Picard and Beverly. Let's look at just a few of the ramifications of Wesley being Jean-Luc Picard's and Beverly Crusher's love child.

This means characterizing Picard as a man willing to bed his best friend and fellow officer's wife. No way around it. I know P/C is a favorite shipper pairing to a lot of people so take it out of that context. This is the equivalent of Picard sleeping with Deanna Troi after her marriage to Will Riker in Nemesis.

This would also be characterizing Beverly Crusher as a woman willing to betray her husband with his best friend and commanding officer. (Again, think how it would change Deanna's character if you have her bed Jean-Luc Picard while married to Will Riker.) Beverly would also have to be willing to lie to her husband passing the child of an adulterous tryst off as his.

Warmest Wishes,
Whoa Nellie

Well said!

 

[CorporalClegg]

The real question is why the writers were so insistent to push the subject.

A lot of the particular language in some of the dialog is really obvious like, they were so careful in choosing just the right words as a “wink and a nudge.” This is most obvious in season one though certainly apparent in later years.

What dialog are you thinking of?

Oh, God, you're going to make me give examples...

Well, one that comes to mind is in (I think!) "Justice" where Doc says something like "If he was your son..." and then there's a really long beat and she gives Picard a faint smile. And, I can't remember what his response was, but it was very politician like how did deflects and dissolves the comment without actually addressing it.

 

[SiorX]

The last time this thread came up I had total, ground-breaking, scientific proof that Picard was indeed the dishonorable swine who fathered Wesley, but the rigour my methodology was called into question.

Seriously though, with the characters we know from Next Gen and the moral highground they stake out for themselves, there's just no possible way that Picard could be Wesley's father. The damage it does to the characters to read it that way, isn't worth the amusement it affords, no matter how many jokes you can get out of it.