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Spoilers Andor - Season 2

While it was obvious the Emperor was behind this and he was properly called out on it, there seemed to be a plausible deniability subplot going on last week with even Carro Rylanz claiming the Emperor was innocent and the ISB was running a shadow government, yet that plotline seemingly went nowhere.
 
While it was obvious the Emperor was behind this and he was properly called out on it, there seemed to be a plausible deniability subplot going on last week with even Carro Rylanz claiming the Emperor was innocent and the ISB was running a shadow government, yet that plotline seemingly went nowhere.
That wasn't a plotline. That was Rylanz trying to convince the loyal Imperial official to turn rebel informant. "By doing this, we're actually being MORE loyal to the Emperor and totally not betraying him. Because the ISB is running a secret conspiracy on the side. You'd probably have to be disloyal to the Empire to NOT help us here, Syril."

Spin. A certain point of view. BS to convince a seemingly loyal but disaffected man to turn traitor without feeling like he's turned traitor.
 
Did Mothma's driver have a change of heart when he listened to the speech, and was actually trying to help when Andor killed him, or was I reading to much into that?
 
Crazily enough I thought of how the K-2SO origin comic can be reconciled with what we see in Andor. Timeline 1--Vader kills Ahsoka on Malachor in 3 BBY, the events of Andor happen SLIGHTLY differently in 2 BBY and Cassian obtains K-2SO as seen in the comic. Come 1 BBY, Ezra goes back in time, changes events so that Ahsoka survives her Malachor duel in 3 BBY, and with Ahsoka working behind the scenes in the Rebellion, creates Timeline 2 where the K-2SO origin comic never happens and instead the events of Andor and how K-2SO is obtained there takes precedence.
 
Episode 9 fits into Rebels so smoothly now. The only continuity error may be in what Mon was wearing and her hairstyle during her farewell speech in the Senate, but other than that: Gilroy threaded the needle pretty flawlessly.
Part of me was hoping they'd ignore Rebels completely, but I'm sure they had their orders not to.

It was slightly awkward how they had to explain, "Oh, Mon's taking a different ship," but mercifully at least we didn't actually have to see any of the Rebels characters. Threaded the needle and dodged a bullet!
 
Well, Mon's on the run, Syril is dead, and have we seen the last of Dedra?
Can't imagine the final 3 episodes won't involve Dedra. She's way too important to the show.
So they just drop the whole fuel-sniffing thing with Wilmon?
Honestly, the show would have been better off not shoehorning Saw into this season. He has nothing to do, he has no relevance to the story or characters. It's a very rare instance of the show feeling like it has to tick a box.

It's also weird that Wilmon went back and forth between Saw and Yavin since Rogue One establishes that Saw's group are fringe radicals who don't associate with the Yavin bunch. Luthen is obviously the common element, so this is yet another indication that he won't be around in the R1 timeline.
Props to the original actress, but would anyone else like to see Genevieve O'Reilly magicked into ROTJ? This is pretty much her role now, and has been since the deleted scenes in EP III.
Dear god, no. That's always 100% horrible.
Mon's husband was conspicuously absent this time around. I'm guessing we've probably seen the last of her family at this point.
Hoping we catch a glimpse of them briefly in a final montage of something. Would have been amusing to watch Mon's daughter's undoubtedly horrified reaction to her mom's speeches.
 
While it was obvious the Emperor was behind this and he was properly called out on it, there seemed to be a plausible deniability subplot going on last week with even Carro Rylanz claiming the Emperor was innocent and the ISB was running a shadow government, yet that plotline seemingly went nowhere.

I feel a casualty of 4 seasons in one.

Ghorman deserved to be a season.
 
Ghorman deserved to be a season.
No, it didn't. Heck, there was a tiny bit of slack pacing in the 2nd trio of episodes as it was. (After all, Cassian's mission to Ghorman resulted in literally nothing at all.)

Other than that, it was perfectly paced and executed and nothing further was needed.
 
Ok I've had a change of opinion. Whilst I found the previous season a little dull and the beginning of this season. The latest 3 three episodes may possibly the best Star Wars we've had in a long time. Its gone beyond its popcorn thrills and really pushing the envelope.
I've probably taken a long time to actually appreciate what they're doing with Andor as its a slow burn, something we're not really used to this extent. Defiantly going against the grain what we know Star Wars to be.
It's not easy to fret over a character when you already know their fate. We all know Andor or Mon Mothma are safe characters and can't be killed off. But there was times I truly felt the jeopardy.

Someone said in this thread that Star Wars is a dead brand and Disney has ran it the ground. Today it does not feel dead at all.
 
Ok I've had a change of opinion. Whilst I found the previous season a little dull and the beginning of this season. The latest 3 three episodes may possibly the best Star Wars we've had in a long time. Its gone beyond its popcorn thrills and really pushing the envelope.
I've probably taken a long time to actually appreciate what they're doing with Andor as its a slow burn, something we're not really used to this extent. Defiantly going against the grain what we know Star Wars to be.
It's not easy to fret over a character when you already know their fate. We all know Andor or Mon Mothma are safe characters and can't be killed off. But there was times I truly felt the jeopardy.

Someone said in this thread that Star Wars is a dead brand and Disney has ran it the ground. Today it does not feel dead at all.

In this case due to very good writing the journey was the most interesting part as opposed to Kenobi, which i though was boring and uninspired in contrast.

This is Star Wars for adults with serious themes, something Star Wars never truly adressed and was content to only handle superficially by putting characters either in the good or evil camp with no nuance in between.

I mean i love the space battles, the Jedi stuff and all the (original) movie stuff but if you had that constantly without variation it gets stale.

Andor brought in a very fresh wind and for me this is peak Disney Star Wars ( alongside the "conclusion" Rogue One).
 
Diego Luna is doing a great job emoting Andor's inner turmoil. Watching the Ghorman massacre was like watching Ferrix all over again- you could feel it. Then in the end, Andor driving away, wrecked, tears in his eyes as the Ghor beg for help on the comm net. You feel the Empire's oppression like a tangible thing, here. This is the galaxy under the rule of the Sith. Like Luthen, Cassian's world is a sunless place except for Bix, and now she's gone too.
 
Crazily enough I thought of how the K-2SO origin comic can be reconciled with what we see in Andor. Timeline 1--Vader kills Ahsoka on Malachor in 3 BBY, the events of Andor happen SLIGHTLY differently in 2 BBY and Cassian obtains K-2SO as seen in the comic. Come 1 BBY, Ezra goes back in time, changes events so that Ahsoka survives her Malachor duel in 3 BBY, and with Ahsoka working behind the scenes in the Rebellion, creates Timeline 2 where the K-2SO origin comic never happens and instead the events of Andor and how K-2SO is obtained there takes precedence.
Some people STILL think Ahsoka was killed in the s2 finale? Have you even WACTHED the ending of that episode while not playing on your phone? Jesus
 
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