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[Marc]

Reading today’s Toronto Star, Jamie Wattt (a conservative) in his column raised the same thing I did up thread - the govt should reach out to the nps’ers about jumping ship

It would allow for committee positions etc that the ndp won’t have without official party status.

Problem is those left are the truest of true believers.

 

[Owain Taggart]

Canadian Tire bidding on Hudson's Bay assets, sources say

Beleaguered retailer Hudson’s Bay has attracted a bid from Canadian Tire, two sources familiar with the sales process say. The sources, who are not being named because they were not authorized to speak about the matter, say the household goods chain has made a bid for some of the faltering...

toronto.citynews.ca

Interesting. It actually kind of makes sense for them, but I worry they may be spreading themselves too thin. They're already a company that has many sub-companies. At least with Canadian Tire, they could bring it back as a Canadian owned company.

 

[DEWLine]

If there's one Canadian retailer that I would credit as capable of pulling the Bay out of this spiral, I would say Canadian Tire might be able to manage this.

 

[Avro Arrow]

Reading today’s Toronto Star, Jamie Wattt (a conservative) in his column raised the same thing I did up thread - the govt should reach out to the nps’ers about jumping ship

I read a rumour that they're looking for disaffected Conservatives to flip, who might be looking for a shot at government. I have no idea how true it is. TBH, members from the progressive conservative wing of the party would probably be a fairly good fit with Carney, and some might be willing to jump ship for a seat at the table, and to get out from under the thumb of the reform wing currently in charge of the CPC.

I'd probably rather see that, then see them further diminish the small remnant of the NDP that's left. (Although I'm still in favour of the Liberal/NDP coalition idea, since that helps both parties.)

 

[Marc]

I read a rumour that they're looking for disaffected Conservatives to flip, who might be looking for a shot at government. I have no idea how true it is. TBH, members from the progressive conservative wing of the party would probably be a fairly good fit with Carney, and some might be willing to jump ship for a seat at the table, and to get out from under the thumb of the reform wing currently in charge of the CPC.

yes I think it will truly rankle with some of them moderate conservative if the man who cost them the election and lost his riding in the process is keep on as leader and that some-one will step aside for a by-election (and the rumour/expectation is that it will be out west).

 

[Timewalker]

I read a rumour that they're looking for disaffected Conservatives to flip, who might be looking for a shot at government. I have no idea how true it is. TBH, members from the progressive conservative wing of the party would probably be a fairly good fit with Carney, and some might be willing to jump ship for a seat at the table, and to get out from under the thumb of the reform wing currently in charge of the CPC.

I'd probably rather see that, then see them further diminish the small remnant of the NDP that's left. (Although I'm still in favour of the Liberal/NDP coalition idea, since that helps both parties.)

I saw a rumor on FB earlier today about Elizabeth May becoming Speaker. It makes sense in a way, as the Speaker doesn't get to vote and the Liberals need every vote they can get, to pass legislation. She knows the rules and procedures inside and out, and takes no bullshit from anybody. She'd make a good Speaker.

On the flip side, though, is if she'd want to give up her own vote and (admittedly meagre) opportunities to ask questions and have her say in debates.

yes I think it will truly rankle with some of them moderate conservative if the man who cost them the election and lost his riding in the process is keep on as leader and that some-one will step aside for a by-election (and the rumour/expectation is that it will be out west).

The name I've seen being floated to give up his seat for a byelection is Kerry Diotte, in Edmonton. He's an odious jerk who used to be a columnist for the Edmonton Sun before getting into municipal and then federal politics. If there's any truth to this, it should be a safe CPC riding and Diotte would expect to be handsomely rewarded.

 

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Oops, looks like the Liberals are now back to four seats away from majority, after the validation process shows the BQ winning the riding of Terrebonne, instead of the Liberals. The vote difference was close enough that it will still get a judicial recount.

If they’re trying to flip individual MPs, then that will make things a little more difficult.

 

[Marc]

well they've found a way to get poilievre back into parliament with an alberta MP announce he'll resign the loser can run in a very safe conservative seat.

Tory MP for Battle River—Crowfoot says he’ll step down so Pierre Poilievre can run in byelection

Damien Kurek made the announcement Friday after Prime Minister Mark Carney said he would call a byelection "as soon as possible" should Poilievre find another riding to run in.

www.thestar.com

most time there would be backlash from the voters for this sort of crap.

might also go further to pissing off a few moderates and make them more receptive to working with Carneny and the liberals.

 

[DEWLine]

Carney's people actually believe that there's still such a thing as "Red Tories" in the Conservative caucus as presently constituted?

 

[Timewalker]

Carney's out of touch on that point. Harper purged the Red Tories at least 15 years ago, if not more. Some of them stuck with Joe Clark when he kept trying to hang on to the real PC party, but in the end they either gave up or joined the CPC.

Clark never did, though. Funny how I didn't like him back around 1979/80, but if he could turn back the physical clock and run, I'd consider voting for him. That would be the only time I'd ever consider voting for a conservative. He earned my respect.