I agree. I LOVE the concept of a prequel to Enterprise in general, as well.
What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?
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Oh, I dunno. I have a real soft spot for seeing the NX-01 over Manhattan, fighting Nazi Dive Bombers. It was gloriously weird and I kinda love it.
Plus, I still get a little emotional seeing the Enterprise finally making it home, beaten half to hell, and being greated by fleet of friendly ships.
The allied ship flotilla is beautiful. The best part of both Space Nazi episodes.
I can understand those points, but that two-parter was just... nuts.
The saving grace of it for me? It finally ended the Temporal Cold War for ENTERPRISE.
Bless you, Manny Coto.
I think that's more of a "StarFleet Specific Issue" and why they love the Saucer Design so much that they keep re-using it.
The rest of the UFP members can do whatever they want for their personal fleets, but StarFleet & the UFP Government that backs them, they've embraced their own design Aesthetic that is "Iconic to them".
You look at the Vulcans, they continue to use some form of a "Warp Ring" well into the 24th century and beyond.
That's their spiel, and they intend to stick with it.
Regardless of whatever StarFleet intends on doing.
Personally, I think StarFleet likes having a lot of Flat Interior Room / Surface Area to work with.
Given how many different things StarFleet tends to do, having more interior Surface Area to walk around before you have to go to another floor is nice.
Where as many Vulcan designs are all constructed around their Warp Rings, and the rest of the fuselage is designed to accomadate that Warp Ring.
The Trek Files had a shining example this week of why the Full Gene getting evened out by the other writers made the franchise a lasting concern:
This is the infamous four-breasted original concept of Deanna Troi, which D.C. Fontana rightfully tore to shreds.
Also interesting to see that it was David Gerrold who suggested turning Wesley Crusher into a teenager.
Yeah, I get a kick outta that scene too. And yeah, Enterprise finally getting home is a great scene too.
Do the opinions have to be just about in-universe happenings or can I put up a post from TrekMovie that I'd love discussed here but don't wanna start a thread about it?
The Dresselhaus looks like it was built in an alien fleetyard, and probably a species we've not heard of yet. It seems quite war-like too.
The jelly beans screamed alien to me as a kid. I couldn't imagine why humans would design something like that.
The real problem with the Star Trek Writer's Guide, was that Gene Roddenberry and company, thought that it went deep enough.
This clearly wasn't the case. What it led to, was tunnel vision - focusing only on a select few characters...at best.
There should have been ten pages or so on the Federation and interstellar relations. Much more depth on the Klingons and the Romulans.
Then there should have been ten pages on the technology. I have been working to solve this problem for decades. I think that I have finally found the answer...
Energy.
To be precise: warp energy accumulation. The early ships could go to extreme ranges if the crew were willing to sleep through most of the starflight. During this time, a speed equivalent to 320c would be attained. But Impulse power was weak (Where No Man Has Gone Before) so it took months to get up to this speed equivalent. Speed equivalent? Yes, space warps aren't speed in the conventional sense. So this condition goes on for centuries...
Then, the time barrier is broken. Speed equivalents to 6,400c are attained.
Going by the early episodes this is what Gene Roddenberry and company intended.
This explains the Romulan's use of 'simple' Impulse power...there 'acceleration' was very low
So overall about one hundred pages of what and where the show was going.
This clearly wasn't the case. What it led to, was tunnel vision - focusing only on a select few characters...at best.
There should have been ten pages or so on the Federation and interstellar relations. Much more depth on the Klingons and the Romulans.
Then there should have been ten pages on the technology. I have been working to solve this problem for decades. I think that I have finally found the answer...
Energy.
To be precise: warp energy accumulation. The early ships could go to extreme ranges if the crew were willing to sleep through most of the starflight. During this time, a speed equivalent to 320c would be attained. But Impulse power was weak (Where No Man Has Gone Before) so it took months to get up to this speed equivalent. Speed equivalent? Yes, space warps aren't speed in the conventional sense. So this condition goes on for centuries...
Then, the time barrier is broken. Speed equivalents to 6,400c are attained.
Going by the early episodes this is what Gene Roddenberry and company intended.
This explains the Romulan's use of 'simple' Impulse power...there 'acceleration' was very low
So overall about one hundred pages of what and where the show was going.
Yes, this is the non saucer, non nacelle NX-01. It was even established in TMP as an Enterprise predecessor to the 1701
I like the ring ship, but it was never gonna be a hero ship. Brand recognition demands that Star Trek hero ships conform to a certain look. That look being a Saucer and Nacelles.
Then don't do a show set 100 years earlier. "Saucers, transporters, Klingons, Ferengi, Borg, we've got it all."
Enterprise's problems in a nutshell.
It was the "early days", so while he thought he had depth to the universe, it's no-where close to what we have now after 50+ years of content accumulated.
Or their Warp Core Tech Level was "Very Weak" and far behind what the UFP & StarFleet were at technological level wise.
That's why they were working on the AQS (Artificial Quantum Singularity) as a alternative.
By the 24th century, they deviated from both UFP & Klingons in terms of what Reactor Technology their Capital Ships were using.
I came to a similar conclusion early on for the "Star Trek: New TV Series Universe Writers Guide / Technical Rules Manual".
But my word document is ≥ 785 pages along with extra content in seperate documents along with images, etc.
It's a living document that I'm constantly modifying and adding content to.
I can see the reasoning for Brand recognition, but I think that stifles creativity.
If I'm remembering correctly there were conversations at the time about exactly why they weren't going to do that. Because they were making a TV show. That had to be on the air this year.
But that's true with any "Long Running Franchise" that has already established a "Signature Look".
The writers guide was intended for prospective writers to get a handle on the baseline of the series concept before writing their assigned story. It wasn’t a technical treatise and encyclopedia with hundreds of pages of minutiae for fans.
You’re ascribing modern television storytelling sensibilities to a show from the 60’s. Gene and co were making this shit up as they went. There was no overarching plan.
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