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I Know Im A Herbert, but............................

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Tongo Red's "singing" and shredding really gets on my last nerve. Kirk pls go back in time to fire a barrage of photons on the Aurora
 
I would have liked the space hippies more if Tongo Rad (the non-singer) hadn't been styled so badly. The baldcap combined with long, stringy wig are very off-putting. With that kind of hairline, keep it short. Your hair's glory days are over.

Also, I've always been irked by this smug, entitled bohemian getting special treatment because his father is the Catullan ambassador. There should be a special chamber in Hell for foreigners who abuse their diplomatic immunity. "He stole a spacecraft? No problem!"

And I just saw at Rad's Memory Alpha page that the actor may have come to mind precisely because the character was somebody's son. Turns out the actor was somebody's son at Paramount. I never knew that.

Edit: I also did NOT know this. He played a redshirt!
 
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I would have liked the space hippies more if Tongo Rad (the non-singer) hadn't been styled so badly. The baldcap combined with long, stringy wig are very off-putting. With that kind of hairline, keep it short. Your hair's glory days are over.

Also, I've always been irked by this smug, entitled bohemian getting special treatment because his father is the Catullan ambassador. There should be a special chamber in Hell for foreigners who abuse their diplomatic immunity. "He stole a spacecraft? No problem!"

And I just saw at Rad's Memory Alpha page that the actor may have come to mind precisely because the character was somebody's son. Turns out the actor was somebody's son at Paramount.
As was one of our finest character actors from 2010, ALTERED STATES and CLOSE ENCOUNTERS.:cool:

I'm not a hippie-phile by any means, but I always liked Tongo in every way. When he bleeds the blood never hits the floor. I'm glad he was the last shoeless man standing.
 
And I just saw at Rad's Memory Alpha page that the actor may have come to mind precisely because the character was somebody's son. Turns out the actor was somebody's son at Paramount. I never knew that.
He also played a small role in the 1965 WWII film The Battle of the Bulge. Had not been aware of that.

Maybe having a daddy already in the industry helped give him a foot in the door, but he seems to have made a respectable career as an actor (on-screen & voice) and writer.
 
Hey I liked the hippie songs! Riley singing in "The Naked Time" gets on my nerves though. Well, everybody singing in that episode...
 
Hey I liked the hippie songs!
I think they were a far more accurate representation of that aspect of hippie culture than just about anything else being shown on TV at the time.

It's also fair to suppose that Tongo Rad was probably the least musically-inclined of the bunch.
 
Honestly, the only singing sequence I don't like is the "Charlie X" bit. The songs are awful; intentionally - I get it - they were supposed to be improvised, but it stops the episode cold. It's so unnecessary that nobody reacts to Charlie making Uhura lose her voice and Spock being unable to play his lyre. It's never mentioned after that, they just go right to the card tricks. For almost 20 years, that scene was cut out of my market's syndie print of the episode and it didn't hurt the episode in the slightest.

However....Uhura singing "Beyond Antares" in "Conscience of the King" is a lovely and sinister scene and Nichelle is amazing.
 
I think they were a far more accurate representation of that aspect of hippie culture than just about anything else being shown on TV at the time.

It's also fair to suppose that Tongo Rad was probably the least musically-inclined of the bunch.
They could have traded him off with that goofball on the bridge. He had a jigginess Tongo was too cool to show.
 
I think they were a far more accurate representation of that aspect of hippie culture than just about anything else being shown on TV at the time.

It's also fair to suppose that Tongo Rad was probably the least musically-inclined of the bunch.
He was in charge of the manifesto.
 
I would have liked the space hippies more if Tongo Rad (the non-singer) hadn't been styled so badly. The baldcap combined with long, stringy wig are very off-putting. With that kind of hairline, keep it short. Your hair's glory days are over.
The Klingons would like a word.
And I just saw at Rad's Memory Alpha page that the actor may have come to mind precisely because the character was somebody's son. Turns out the actor was somebody's son at Paramount. I never knew that.
Seems a bit of a stretch. His acting career was already in swing with multiple roles in various tv shows. From what I can tell neither parent was associated with Paramount. Father worked primarily as an assistant director and mother was a character actress.
 
I enjoy TWtE, Sometimes I want camp and unintentional silliness in my day instead of darkness, and I liked Adam's voice. Was Charles Napier really singing? Speaking of which, they make an episode with live musical performing in it and Nichelle DOESN'T sing?
 
I enjoy TWtE, Sometimes I want camp and unintentional silliness in my day instead of darkness, and I liked Adam's voice. Was Charles Napier really singing? Speaking of which, they make an episode with live musical performing in it and Nichelle DOESN'T sing?
She wasn't in it :)

Lt. Palmer was sitting in.

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This episode always interested me in how it, briefly, feels like an early episode. The opening sequence is pretty much a straight rewrite of the teaser of "Mudd's Women"; chasing the ship, tractor beam, overheating ship, ship blows up, Scotty gets an unexpected group beamed aboard in the last second. The music cues are also library versions of music from that episode with a little bit of "Where No Man Has Gone Before."

After that, it goes off the rails, but it's an interesting start.
 
I wasn't aware we were supposed to like the singing.
I don't feel were supposed to like or dislike it. Severin and his group liked it, a lot of the crew liked it. Scotty, that crabby old bastard, didn't. I thought it was fine, but really liked the jam session with Spock.
 
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