> Be Superman
> Get hurt by concentrated yellow sunlight
> The thing that actually gives him all his super abilities
300M WW is the ceiling.
DC Cinematic Universe ( The James Gunn era)
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> Get hurt by concentrated yellow sunlight
> The thing that actually gives him all his super abilities
300M WW is the ceiling.
Having heard more deets about it, it’s apparently shorter than I thought and not a “here’s the first ten minutes of the movie” kind of thing, but I still think I’m gonna pass. I am more than ready for the next proper trailer, though.
But thanks for the info.
Why are you best friends with a soulless monster?
He was getting blasted with a massive amount of sunlight and it was healing what appeared to be some pretty serious injuries, makes perfect sense to me that that would hurt like hell.
Different interpretation than usual, but it doesn’t seem out of bounds to me. Gunn is obviously trying to make Superman less inhumanly untouchable than he’s sometimes portrayed, showing him as someone who can hurt and bleed.
Creators are really in a no-win situation with the character in many ways. Show him as too powerful and perfect, and people complain he’s boring. Show him as vulnerable, and they’re all, “That’s not Superman!”
Creators are really in a no-win situation with the character in many ways. Show him as too powerful and perfect, and people complain he’s boring. Show him as vulnerable, and they’re all, “That’s not Superman!”
Super-heroes have been "humanized" since the Golden Age and they got even more "humanized" in the Silver Age.
Sorry I wasn't clear, I was meaning in the movies. Maybe I got spoiled by Smallville KEK.
Oh that's not the issue. I was pointing out Superman or Wonder Woman etc should be insanely powerful, and they shouldn't be shown getting beat up on screen!Clark's humanity is what humanizes him.
That was a great clip! I don't know I'm hyped about the film exactly, but I am hopeful.
So you like 45 second long movies?
No.
Not terrible, but not good either. Same thing we've seen in all Superman movies.
Yeah, strictly speaking, "campy" would mean playing it with mockery, treating it as a joke. It's just having fun with it, laughing with it instead of at it.
Interesting that your friend had such different reactions, since they're both embracing a Silver Age vibe. But then, I guess Silver Age DC was somewhat goofier than Silver Age Marvel, or at least Marvel was doing deeper storytelling and character development to balance out the goofy stuff.
Also, I guess the FF trailer isn't playing up the Silver Agey elements as much as that clip did. And it's not as sharp a break from previous films' depictions of the FF as the Superman clip is. Anyone who hasn't read All-Star Superman or Silver Age comics (or seen animated adaptations thereof) could not be blamed for finding this take on Superman unexpected or confusing. It's a bit much to drop on them without the context of the wider film.
Granted, the Reeve films had some very Silver Agey silliness in them, especially the third film, but not to the extent of including Krypto and comical Fortress robots.
No, Superman was already hurt by something else -- perhaps kryptonite, perhaps an alien or kaiju rivaling his power levels -- and thus his injuries were hypersensitive and the treatment caused him pain, in the same way that it would sting to apply ointment to a cut, say. For that matter, I'd imagine that the healing process triggered by the sunlight might be very painful, as his tissues undergo rapid change. Healing is often painful.
I presume that in context, what we saw in that clip is the exception for Superman, not the rule, and that's why it's the focus. Perhaps this is the aftermath of the first battle Superman ever lost, and the reason he's struggling so much is that he's never felt pain like this before. It feels like the sort of thing that would come from late in the second act of the film, the moment when the hero is at his lowest before he rallies back. Although in other ways it feels like the opening minutes of the film, so maybe it's a flashfoward and we then go back to see how he ended up in that situation.
And Kryptonite is what Kryptonizes him.Clark's humanity is what humanizes him.
Completely disagree, if you want people to actually give a shit, a hero, even one like Superman, needs to be hurt and struggle at least sometimes. A hero who is never hurt and never struggles with anything is boring as hell and no one is going to care about them.
Superman got hurt all the time in the comics, he even died. He's incredibly strong and invulnerable to some stuff like the vacuum of space or fire or radiation. But if something is big enough or strong enough he can be hurt. But the whole point of the character is that he keeps fighting even to the death.
ST1701 is advocating for Silver Age comics when Superman was very rarely seriously hurt. It's a valid take, but in my lifetime of 50 years reading Superman he's always had to take a beating or be put in danger.
We've had heroes "struggling" for years in CBMs. That is what bores me. I want Superman to be absolutely untouchable unless it's a big villain like Brainiac, Darkseid or Metallo.
But no, it's too much for DCM to give us those villains, just rehash Luthor for like the fifth time now and call it a day.
The point you made that he even died - yes, he did, at the hands of an unstoppable beast from the stars, not Luthor or a human enemy.
This will be like the 5th time Luthor will hurt Supes on screen. It's getting boring.
Yup, last 50 years or so all the heroes got severely nerfed.
In the MCU what I loved was that Captain Marvel could one-shot entire fleets of battleships.
Scarlet Witch can 1v1 Thanos, stripping him of armor, that he had to order rainfire.
Thor, in the frst movie, literally broke miles of hard iced rock into pieces by hitting the ground with Mjolnir.
That is what's fun to watch with what our heroes can do, unlike Supes getting nerfed again and again and again and again.
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