Yeah, the Thanos story from the first film was really disconnected from the Infinity arc
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Which doesn't change that they were still part of the overall story arc.
FoX wasted too much time on Wolverine, and then assumed that because First Class didn't make a lot of money it was specifically because it didn't have Hugh Jackman. It wasn't, it was because X3 made people think the storyline was over and then Wolverine Origins weren't good and they did a bad job on whether it was a clean reboot or not.
Not in a big enough part. One of the main reasons Fox brought back Singer and he in turn killed off most of the FC characters and brought back Jackman and the others was because Fox thought "Okay, First Class didn't make a lot of money...we need more Jackman!"
The MCU may be bringing back RDJ but at least they've TRIED for the last 6 years to move beyond RDJ and didn't fold after 1 flick.
They were not in any way incompetently run, the only reason they focused on those three is because they were the characters that people liked and wanted to see more of.
Well, they did make one movie that had none of the above...
And I, for one, love it and I still think it's a shame we'll never get a sequel.
That's incompetence. The MCU made folks care about a talking raccoon and talking Tree no one wanted to see because they realized it was laziness to only go for the "Popular characters".
A properly done X-Men movie would've bothered making it a real ensemble and casting actors capable of holding their own with Hugh Jackman's presence.
They started, but then gutlessly Fox kept interfering with it because it had no faith in it.
They couldn't keep things consistent. Every time they alluded to Wolverine's past at Alkali Base it would change
-One moment he's screaming with blood
-One moment he's running out stark naked and jumps out of the dam
-Another moment he's got monitoring gear and encounters the young X-men
-One moment he's screaming with blood
-One moment he's running out stark naked and jumps out of the dam
-Another moment he's got monitoring gear and encounters the young X-men
That's pretty much how movie-series continuity usually works. Look at the Universal Frankenstein movies. Frankenstein's lab was a tower in the hills in the first movie, an outbuilding on the Castle Frankenstein grounds in the second, and inside the castle itself in the third, yet it's supposed to be the same lab in every case.
And also Xavier says he met Magneto when he was 17, then First Class shows us they met in their late 20s/early 30s and their "Great Friendship" was that they hung out for a few months and then Magneto accidentally crippled him. While X3 showed they were still friends all the way to their 50s or so when they met young Jean.
To be fair the third one ^ is in a different timeline than the others.
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Not incompetent, they just choose to focus on the characters that people liked, there's absolutely nothing wrong with that.
Lots of team movies will pick one or two characters to focus on, hell even the Avengers focused pretty squarely on Iron Man and Capt. America, and the Star Treks focused on Kirk, Spock and McCoy in the TOS movies, and Picard and Data in the TNG movies. It's pretty for are for an ensemble movie to actually spread the focus on the whole cast especially when they're as big as the casts in the X-Men, Avengers, and Trek movies.
I would bet it would be the same in the actual comic books themselves as well.
Not that it actually dismisses the point being made but I think if they get close enough most people give it a pass or are watching casually enough to not notice.
No doubt even more so. After all, Marvel pretends all its comics are in a single continuity, even though the characters who were introduced over 60 years ago are presumed to be only 10-15 years older today, and the period details of past stories are revised when they're retold in modern stories.
Exactly. Historically, continuity in fiction series has been treated as a matter of broad strokes, sometimes extremely broad. Even the tighter series continuities still tweak the occasional detail.
By that logic, the Guardians movies shouldn't exist, Ant-Man shouldn't exist, Black Panther shouldn't have gotten movies, etc.
It at least did SOMETHING with Bruce, Thor, Natasha and Hawkeye. Then later Vision and Wanda. More than the FoX-Men movies did with their non-Logan characters.
Avengers and Guardians did it better then FoX-Men ever did.
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