What are your controversial Star Trek opinions?

[Farscape One]

Well, see that's the thing - replicators supposedly can take any matter, break it down and recombine it. It doesn't need to be something special like deuterium. So they could literally just supply their replicators with chunks of planet to make whatever they wanted. Further, wouldn't it make sense, as a gesture of good will to their neighbors, for the Federation to provide more advanced replicator tech? Would that not go a long way to preventing others from using the scarcity angle as motivation for aggression? Seems a great opportunity to stabilize relations between empires.

Providing advanced technology is not a good idea. Help them improve the design of replicators and the like, sure. But just giving it to them doesn't really solve the problem... and would likely just embolden them to keep being aggressive.

And as Tallguy mentioned, land is something that can't be replicated. As populations keep increasing, where do they go when every planet is getting full?

 

[cooleddie74]

Which is probably a big part of the motivation for inventing the Genesis Device in the 2280s, but since that turned out to be WAY more trouble than it was worth the Federation went back to the drawing board for less....destructive and interplanetarily destabilizing ways to make worlds habitable for settlers and their families.

 

[Farscape One]

It's definitely an issue, albeit an understandable outgrowth of budget limitations. Personally, I've always liked to think that most of those human looking extras in the background aren't actually human.

Considering we've seen many races that look human but are not human, it's certainly possible.

Another thing to consider is maybe the other founding worlds' population is not quite as motivated to go out into the unknown. It IS very dangerous, after all. They might be just fine with humans being the ones who take the most risks while the others sit back and get the rewards and be the backup when needed.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Providing advanced technology is not a good idea. Help them improve the design of replicators and the like, sure. But just giving it to them doesn't really solve the problem... and would likely just embolden them to keep being aggressive.

And as Tallguy mentioned, land is something that can't be replicated. As populations keep increasing, where do they go when every planet is getting full?

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[knightgrace]

A two step deactivation switch cancels that problem. Let's say a catch phrase, followed by the button in the small of the back.

Catch phrase should change among twenty or so different ones...

 

[Farscape One]

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Yeah, population and food sources were mentioned as problems in the Genesis presentation. But as cooleddie mentioned, and we saw in the movies, it wasn't feasible to continue Project Genesis.

 

[Nerys Myk]

A two step deactivation switch cancels that problem. Let's say a catch phrase, followed by the button in the small of the back.

Catch phrase should change among twenty or so different ones...

"Bazinga"
"Did I do that?"
"Up your nose with a rubber hose"
"Na-Noo Na-Noo"
"Stifle yourself"

 

[BillJ]

CBS Trek is better in very small increments. I’ve gotten where I will just watch periodic clips to keep up with the general course of the franchise. No need to waste eight hours a season with it.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Not seeing that on TV.

You don't have to actually show anything on TV, just verbally explain it and imply reaching there.

Then fast cut and show the Android Turned off.

It wouldn't be much of an issue.

Providing advanced technology is not a good idea.

I 100% agree.

Help them improve the design of replicators and the like, sure.

I also 100% agree with that idea, but give them clues, don't just tell them how to improve.

But just giving it to them doesn't really solve the problem... and would likely just embolden them to keep being aggressive.

Exactly

And as Tallguy mentioned, land is something that can't be replicated. As populations keep increasing, where do they go when every planet is getting full?

Space Habitats & Giant Space MegaStructures like Ring Worlds.

 

[Nerys Myk]

You don't have to actually show anything on TV, just verbally explain it and imply reaching there.

Still not gonna fly

 

[knightgrace]

Exactly, Nerys Myk. But, you left out a few...;^))

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Still not gonna fly

This is the same Star Trek Franchise that showed Topless Klingon Breasts in a sex scene.

 

[Farscape One]

You don't have to actually show anything on TV, just verbally explain it and imply reaching there.

Then fast cut and show the Android Turned off.

It wouldn't be much of an issue.


I 100% agree.


I also 100% agree with that idea, but give them clues, don't just tell them how to improve.


Exactly


Space Habitats & Giant Space MegaStructures like Ring Worlds.

Still need the raw materials to build thise structures, as well as massive power requirements just on keeping people alive.

A planet or moon is a better choice... for one thing, you're not likely to have life support failure on a world that has fresh air.

 

[Kamen Rider Blade]

Still need the raw materials to build thise structures, as well as massive power requirements just on keeping people alive.

A planet or moon is a better choice... for one thing, you're not likely to have life support failure on a world that has fresh air.

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Still plenty of choices for Space Habitats that you can create & customize to your hearts content.

 

[137th Gebirg]

As evidenced by Kirk's apartment with the amazing view and Chateau Picard: replicators don't make land. ("Stocks may rise and fall, utilities may collapse, people are no damn good, but they will always need land and they will pay through the nose to get it.")

What is the technological (forget cultural) gizmo that makes a society "post scarcity"? Is it just the replicator? What feeds into it? What powers it?

You could probably make a box of dirt.

But yeah, using dirt to make/move dirt seems an impractical use of a replicator and is probably something on a scale that is out-of-scope for even the largest replicators. The energy consumption requirements of it alone would likely be prohibitive. As for what powers it? Probably just plugging it into a standard power source like an intermix chamber distribution node or a portable fusion generator for mobile use. What feeds it? Like I said, any kind of matter can be re-combined into any other kind of matter, so long as the number of molecules are roughly the same (law of conservation of matter/energy transfer?) with some possible inefficiency loss somewhere in the circuitry between points A and Z of the replication process.

Oh, yeah - something else that can't be replicated - Dilithium Crystals (and also probably Boreth Time Crystals).

 

[Grendelsbayne]

Considering we've seen many races that look human but are not human, it's certainly possible.

Another thing to consider is maybe the other founding worlds' population is not quite as motivated to go out into the unknown. It IS very dangerous, after all. They might be just fine with humans being the ones who take the most risks while the others sit back and get the rewards and be the backup when needed.

True. And another thing to consider is how many of those species that look human literally owe their lives to Starfleet (whether via Kirk or Picard or Janeway). Stuff like that could be a big motivator for their descendants to choose careers in Starfleet themselves a few generations down the line if those peoples wound up joining the Federation.

Plus, the existence of races like the Bajorans or the Trill means that there are also still other races that technically don't look human but the difference is so small it could easily be hidden by clothing. If the Trill spots didn't go up the back of the neck specifically, you'd never be able to tell a Trill from a Human without making them undress. Who knows how many similar species there might be with similar level differences that just coincidentally aren't located on the face and neck.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Betazoid or human with dark eyes?

 

[nightwind1]

Apropos of nothing, thanks to both of you for this. It resulted in a 20 minute Wikipedia dive. I love learning stuff.

I believe @cooleddie74 lives in Roanoke.

 

[cooleddie74]

I do. Wait, did I miss something related to my city in this thread?!?

ETA: Ah, the Roanoke Colony. Different Roanoke, but interesting.

 

[Nerys Myk]

This is the same Star Trek Franchise that showed Topless Klingon Breasts in a sex scene.

I'm pretty sure Star Trek has a strict no butt stuff policy.