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Spoilers Marvel Cinematic Universe spoiler-heavy speculation thread

What grade would you give the Marvel Cinematic Universe? (Ever-Changing Question)

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Kai the spy said:
To be fair, some go the extra mile, ask a celebrity about some throwaway line from another celebrity about them (which is usually taken out of context), turn it into media beef and several days worth of "content".
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What gets me is when they ask an actor a purely hypothetical question about whether they'd return to a famous role or franchise if asked, and when they say yes, it's treated like big news, even when there are no actual plans for a new project. Someone saying "yes" to "would you hypothetically like to get a paying job" is hardly newsworthy.
 
Shouldn't be a surprise. The news cycle never stops. I don't even mean daily. You got 24 hours in a day in which someone, at any point of the day can come up with a big scoop or catchy clickbait title and if people are watching that, they aren't watching you, and the audience is always out their because the internet never sleeps.
 
Tosk said:
To be fair, OTOY were also quite careful to intentionally leave the short open to interpretation.
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Some are still trying to figure out the Gary Mitchell cameo in the opening (obviously, I'm one of them), and if its a memory of significance for Kirk, or did he have something to do with Kirk's resurrection. *shrugs*
 
What are you guys talking about with Kirk coming back? I've never heard about this before.
Christopher said:
What gets me is when they ask an actor a purely hypothetical question about whether they'd return to a famous role or franchise if asked, and when they say yes, it's treated like big news, even when there are no actual plans for a new project. Someone saying "yes" to "would you hypothetically like to get a paying job" is hardly newsworthy.
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The worst part, is that even when they say no, most of them ending up coming back when they do eventually decide to sequel anyways. So that just makes asking the question even more pointless.
 
JD said:
Need to?
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Usually, what we call special episodes are 90 minutes long. And basically, these Marvel special episodes are actually movies that Disney Plus made special.

So yes, it is necessary. They can make these special episodes for 10-20 million dollars and make them like a long episode of a TV series.
 
oktay said:
Usually, what we call special episodes are 90 minutes long. And basically, these Marvel special episodes are actually movies that Disney Plus made special.

So yes, it is necessary. They can make these special episodes for 10-20 million dollars and make them like a long episode of a TV series.
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There is no standard of what constitutes a 'special episode'.

And neither of the ones we've already had were were 'actually movies'.
 
One of the advantages of streaming format is that they're not bound by conventional network time requirements. If the story needs 45 minutes to tell, there's no need to stretch it out for an hour. If the story needs an hour and 15 minutes, they can give it an hour and 15 minutes. Let the story be as long as it needs to be. On a larger scale, that's where a lot of the Netflix efforts fell apart; trying to stretch out stories to accommodate orders for 13 hour-long episodes a season. The creators of Stranger Things took the better approach in that they insisted that they make their seasons only as long as they needed to be to tell their story.
 
Turtletrekker said:
One of the advantages of streaming format is that they're not bound by conventional network time requirements. If the story needs 45 minutes to tell, there's no need to stretch it out for an hour. If the story needs an hour and 15 minutes, they can give it an hour and 15 minutes. Let the story be as long as it needs to be. On a larger scale, that's where a lot of the Netflix efforts fell apart; trying to stretch out stories to accommodate orders for 13 hour-long episodes a season. The creators of Stranger Things took the better approach in that they insisted that they make their seasons only as long as they needed to be.
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Which I love.

I just wish fans would recognize that instead of whining about episodes being "too" short after a long episode or two.
 
Turtletrekker said:
One of the advantages of streaming format is that they're not bound by conventional network time requirements. If the story needs 45 minutes to tell, there's no need to stretch it out for an hour.
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These days your typical "hourlong" network show is only 40-42 minutes without commercials, so 45 minutes would be longer than usual, not shorter.

Turtletrekker said:
If the story needs an hour and 15 minutes, they can give it an hour and 15 minutes. Let the story be as long as it needs to be.
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Sometimes they take that in the wrong direction and make the episodes too short. Netflix has an 8-episode animated series set in the Legendary MonsterVerse, Skull Island, but it's a serialized story told in six 20-minute episodes bracketed by two 25-minute episodes, so the whole is less than 3 hours long, and the pacing is more decompressed than it needed to be. It could easily have been tightened up and presented as a single movie under 2 1/2 hours. I daresay it would’ve been better that way. (Although the season ends on a cliffhanger, so the story isn't even resolved.)
 
The Nth Doctor said:
Which I love.

I just wish fans would recognize that instead of whining about episodes being "too" short after a long episode or two.
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I think that comes from having fewer episodes per season. Even if they were doing 13 episodes a year this wouldn't be a issues but when you see something with only like 6 episodes and the episodes aren't long combined with the fact that the entire story feels rushed then people start to notice run times more.
 
The Nth Doctor said:
Quality over quanity. How quickly people forget how 24-episode seasons had a lot of duds and half duds.
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I prefer the middle ground.

Not too long, not too short, just right.

Goldilocks & the 3 bears analogy.

The initial 22-26 episodes per Season Order are "Too Long".

The new wave ≤ 13 episodes Season Order are "Too Short"

This is where I advocate for the "Tri-mester System" where 17 episodes with 1 Hour of "Actual Content" per episode and any (Previously on___ / Episode Prologue / Show Opening / Show Ending / Episode Epilogue / Next Time on ___) gets added on top of the actual "Run-Time" of 1-Hour of "Actual Content".

This gives Production staff 2-weeks instead of 1-week to make each episode before they have to start the cycle all over again.
 
The Nth Doctor said:
Quality over quanity. How quickly people forget how 24-episode seasons had a lot of duds and half duds.
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I feel the 13 episode number was always pretty good. It allowed you to do your story arc's but also gave you leeway to toss in a few stand alone stories or do something that is simply more character oriented instead of plot driven. Plus you in theory still have money available to create movie level sets and movie level scope. Also I think it gives you a little more time to film each episode so you don't have to rush to just get everything down in 6 or 7 days which I think was the standard amount of time it took to film old school tv episodes.
 
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Turtletrekker said:
One of the advantages of streaming format is that they're not bound by conventional network time requirements. If the story needs 45 minutes to tell, there's no need to stretch it out for an hour. If the story needs an hour and 15 minutes, they can give it an hour and 15 minutes. Let the story be as long as it needs to be. On a larger scale, that's where a lot of the Netflix efforts fell apart; trying to stretch out stories to accommodate orders for 13 hour-long episodes a season. The creators of Stranger Things took the better approach in that they insisted that they make their seasons only as long as they needed to be to tell their story.
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Yeah, that freedom in the length of episodes is nice. I always prefer to see things being allowed to tell their story in however much time it takes to tell it, without forcing it to specific length. It's not as much of a case for TV since it has it's standard episode lengths, but a lot of movies have been ruined by trying to force them into a specific time limit, by either making them too short to really tell their story, and by stretching them out unnecessarily.
 
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