William Shatner Confirms Talks for Star Trek Return at 93 Years Old

[TREK_GOD_1]

People would love it. Even people who might not even recall the episode would enjoy seeing Kelsey Grammer in Trek.

You assume "people" is some large body of the ST audience who cared about Bateson or Grammer. They do not, and despite dragging Stewart back for Picard--a series that did not exactly return ST to some pop-cultural height, who is really asking for more random TNG-related anything?

Besides their is only so much you can do with bringing Shatner back as Kirk. You know you can't do action stuff with him at his age.

He does not need perform in action scenes. The character is far greater than that.

Unless you’re just pandering to the hardcore TNG fans, nobody else would give a shit.

Exactly.

 

[Daedalus]

People would love it. Even people who might not even recall the episode would enjoy seeing Kelsey Grammer in Trek. Besides their is only so much you can do with bringing Shatner back as Kirk. You know you can't do action stuff with him at his age. Sulu and Chekov are unlikely to be alive in the future and you can't do Scotty either for obvious reasons. Maybe you bring Stewart back and have Kirk and PIcard meet once again.

Here's the thing, I don't think Shatner would want to play second fiddle to Stewart, anymore than he would want to play second fiddle to Paul Wesley or Anson Mount. He's done it before, of course, but he's very much aware of Kirk's value these days.

As much as I'd love to see him with, say, John Larroquette as Maltz. A storyline about honor, lost pride and regaining his own legacy etc, it's going be closer to a high-art vanity project. Deep meanings, whimsical speeches and other things of a superficial nature that'll be aimed at non-fans.

I do want to be wrong, genuinely. I want it to be from the heart like Unification. All im imagining is Section 31 crossed with Picard S1. Shatner is made to think its about him, but it's not really. He gets to sit back while everyone else does somersaults and then he gives big speeches, and it's back to somersaults.

At this point, it might be a relief to know he's just narrating Khan and simply gets top billing

 

[Vulcanoid]

Hell of a thing to think about. I mean, he's got a certain vitality to him that makes me think he can still do that 'roll across the floor' attack, but I'm not going to hold my breath on it! Especially when the matter of cold hard cashola is involved for the payday he'll ask for.

 

[Jayson1]

Feel like when a lot of fans say they want to see Shatner and Stewart again, they want the versions of those actors/characters we last saw in '94. Seeing as how many reacted negatively to Picard in his new series looking and sounding frail (because you know, he's in his 80s), I could see any reappearance of Picard and Kirk as their actors' ages now, not being taken well.

Actually that is the appeal. To see these legends in the golden years of their life. Maybe taking stock over the things they did. The joys the mistakes and so forth. Nobody would expect to see them fight or do anything like that. This is also something that Trek can do because Trek doesn't have to be all about action and pew pew pew. In fact Trek is usually at it's best when it is not about those things.

 

[Jayson1]

Here's the thing, I don't think Shatner would want to play second fiddle to Stewart, anymore than he would want to play second fiddle to Paul Wesley or Anson Mount. He's done it before, of course, but he's very much aware of Kirk's value these days.

As much as I'd love to see him with, say, John Larroquette as Maltz. A storyline about honor, lost pride and regaining his own legacy etc, it's going be closer to a high-art vanity project. Deep meanings, whimsical speeches and other things of a superficial nature that'll be aimed at non-fans.

I do want to be wrong, genuinely. I want it to be from the heart like Unification. All im imagining is Section 31 crossed with Picard S1. Shatner is made to think its about him, but it's not really. He gets to sit back while everyone else does somersaults and then he gives big speeches, and it's back to somersaults.

At this point, it might be a relief to know he's just narrating Khan and simply gets top billing

I think he wouldn't want to play second fiddle but to co-lead and be his equal I think he would be fine with. I think him and Stewart even get along from what I understand. Now maybe politics has soured that today since Shatner is a Republicans and Stewart is a Democrat but maybe not.

 

[Daedalus]

I think he wouldn't want to play second fiddle but to co-lead and be his equal I think he would be fine with. I think him and Stewart even get along from what I understand. Now maybe politics has soured that today since Shatner is a Republicans and Stewart is a Democrat but maybe not.

Well, Stewart did express interest in a Picard-era movie, so it's possible. I'm not sure if Shatner would be classed as a Rebulican, since he's Canadian, but I guess he shares some values with them.

Who knows, It could be anything. So let's hope we aren't waiting too long for the answer.

 

[Jedman67]

TBH the best time to bring Shatner back would have been Lower Decks.
But that ship has sailed.

 

[Dukhat]

Actually that is the appeal. To see these legends in the golden years of their life.

We saw Picard in his golden years. It sucked. I have no reason to believe anything Shatner Kirk does would be any better.

There is such a thing as letting your imagination fill in the blanks. We don’t need to see every person from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT in their geriatric years.

 

[Tiran O'Saurus]

We don’t need to see every person from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT in their geriatric years.

Are you implying Travis Mayweather: The Retirement Ship wouldn't be fascinating?!?

 

[Dukhat]

Are you implying Travis Mayweather: The Retirement Ship wouldn't be fascinating?!?

Well, Anthony Montgomery has a long way to go before he would be described as geriatric, but I also don’t think a whole lot of people are itching to see Mayweather again, even now.

 

[Newt]

We saw Picard in his golden years. It sucked. I have no reason to believe anything Shatner Kirk does would be any better.

Without sounding ageist but I kinda agree.
I love Shatner he's a legend in my book.
But I kinda remember shows like the Simpsons making fun of the TOS cast age back in the day.

Also there's suspension of disbelief. We have Indianna Jones at 80.
The stunts he does in that movie would of put any old age pensioner into hospital.

Or Roger Moore, he was 57 in his last Bond film.
The age difference between Roger Moore and the young bond girl in a view to a kill is 28 years.
It became obvious that he had become too old to play that character for obvious reasons.


Problem is a lot of these films don't acknowledge these characters have aged and often have them doing stuff they shouldn't able to do anymore.

So unless he's playing Kirk that reflects he's in his 90's, if they can write the character being back from the dead too.
As I say I love Shatner. The man went to space for real!

 

[SithHappens]

I liked Picard, especially Season 3. I'd like to see Stewart again aswell as seeing Shatner.

 

[Yistaan]

So unless he's playing Kirk that reflects he's in his 90's, if they can write the character being back from the dead too.
As I say I love Shatner. The man went to space for real!

While the Last Jedi's attempt at deconstruction failed miserably for Star Wars, I have to admit that the last few seasons of Discovery would've been MUCH more interesting if Discovery turned up in the 32nd century with an elderly Kirk inexplicably alive (they could've claimed he was resurrected for the Temporal Wars), sitting alone in some space station and telling Burnham "It's time for Starfleet to end".

I liked Picard, especially Season 3. I'd like to see Stewart again aswell as seeing Shatner.

Interestingly Kirk canonically died at 60 in Generations at 2371, so if he was somehow resurrected immediately afterwards, by the time of Picard in 2401, Kirk would be 90 which fits approximately Shatner's real life age now.

 

[Dukhat]

Without sounding ageist but I kinda agree.
I love Shatner he's a legend in my book.
But I kinda remember shows like the Simpsons making fun of the TOS cast age back in the day.

My intent was not to sound ageist, and I hope that wasn’t the way my post came across. Rather, my point was that I don’t need to see Shatner’s Kirk anymore, just like I didn’t need to see Picard again. Give freakin’ Paul Wesley a chance to do something with the character rather than shoehorning in Shatner where he doesn’t need to be. On that note, I would much rather have seen a younger version of Picard in a prequel rather than seeing Stewart play the character again. Why? Because Stewart wasn’t really playing Picard. He was playing an idealized version of himself, just like Shatner would do if given the chance.

 

[Newt]

My intent was not to sound ageist, and I hope that wasn’t the way my post came across

No not agieist at all imo. Was a little worried my post was by saying they're too old and it breaks the suspension of disbelief.

And it and to quote Kirk himself "Galloping about the cosmos is a game for the young"

 

[Tiran O'Saurus]

so if he was somehow resurrected immediately afterwards, by the time of Picard in 2401, Kirk would be 90 which fits approximately Shatner's real life age now.

His corpse is sitting in a Section 31 base during PIC3. Assuming he could be resurrected, it would only be after that. (Or I guess he was resurrected right after dying in 2371, lived uneventfully in space witness protection, and died of old age at ninety, at which point his corpse was moved to Daystrom Station for some reason.)

 

[Dukhat]

His corpse is sitting in a Section 31 base during PIC3. Assuming he could be resurrected, it would only be after that.

And OTOY’s ‘Unification’s’ quasi-canonical status muddies this even further.

 

[Jayson1]

We saw Picard in his golden years. It sucked. I have no reason to believe anything Shatner Kirk does would be any better.

There is such a thing as letting your imagination fill in the blanks. We don’t need to see every person from TOS, TNG, DS9, VOY and ENT in their geriatric years.

I think it would work as a special event. Not a movie or anything. Like mention something like Short Treks. Only a little longer. I mean 30 minutes of them just talking would be fun. This would truly be a valentine for the fans. Especially since both actors are old and they won't be with us for much longer.

 

[Jayson1]

Are you implying Travis Mayweather: The Retirement Ship wouldn't be fascinating?!?

Travis, who? Was he a character in one of the books? I haven't read all of them.

 

[JoseNoodles]

I liked Picard, especially Season 3. I'd like to see Stewart again aswell as seeing Shatner.

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