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The James Bond Film Discussion Thread (With Bonus Lazenby!)

The rate of the Craig films was as good as it could get given the circumstances Eon found themselves in, and only got stretched out for three reasons: MGM’s financial troubles in 2010 that delayed a third film by four years, the Danny Boyle creative clash, and then finally COVID. If things had gone smoother without those initial delays, we probably would have seen a run more like this:

CR 2006
QOS 2008
SF 2010
SP 2012
NTTD 2015

After Craig leaves, we might have seen Eon deliver Bond 26 in 2019 with a new star. COVID would probably delay Bond 27 to 2022, but that coincides with the 60th anniversary so happy accident. And of course in this alternate timeline since MGM wasn’t having money issues there was no need to sell to Amazon, and we may have gotten Bond 28 last Fall, or this upcoming Fall.

But here we are. The best I can hope out of this new Amazon era besides the films being good is that being strapped with so much cash means we’ll see a more consistent rate of releases down the line. Probably every two years starting in 2027. The days of MGM’s financial woes and having to be co-productions with Sony and Universal are far behind us.

I'm not sure you can solely lay the gap between QoS and SF at the feet of MGM's troubles. It was a factor for sure, but I also think Eon were also burned by how poorly received QoS was. Partly that was down to the strike, but I think they realised they'd rushed to get a second Craig film out and paid the price. As such I suspect there was no way you'd get another film in 2 years, you'd be talking 3 at least, which gives us SF in 2011, and then you factor in the other element. 2012 was the golden anniversary of the Bond films, so if you're looking at 2011 for SF what's another year to hit the 50th?

I think it's pretty clear now that trying to turn a modern Bond film around in 2 years is a push, you can do it on occasion, but it isn't sustainable for every film.

The one gap that should never have existed was between Spectre and NTTD, as you say. Actually I'll add this into my list of mistakes made by Eon. Hiring Boyle, a man who was always going to want creative control, was a terrible idea (and on the flipside Boyle signing up was a bad move on his part because everyone knew Eon wouldn't give him complete creative control.) At the very least if they'd either let him make the film (unlikely) or better yet not hired him in the first place, then we'd have had NTTD in 2019.

I guess the upside of how things turned out is that it's only four and a half years since the last new Bond film came out, because we might be here complaining that it's over six years since the last film came out, because I think we were probably always going to wind up here with Amazon, or someone.
 
I’m pretty confident we won’t get a new film until 2027 anyway. They basically need to start from scratch with a new producer, then that producer hires a writer and director and then hires the next Bond. That’s gonna take some time to pull together, and who knows how much of the production crew from Eon’s run will make the transition.
 
2027 is optimistic but not impossible if Amazon throw money at it. How good a rushed Bond film might be of course is debatable
 
Reading that the deal won't officially go through until May so there's unlikely to be any kind of announcement until after then. Given Barbara and Michael are still technically involved I wonder again whether they'll have any say in the future direction or whether they'll be strictly silent partners banking a cheque? I suspect the latter, but hope for the former, I'm not expecting a veto per se but maybe they'd be able to stop Amazon doing anything monumentally stupid? Or at least advise against it. Faint hope I know.
They will also be informed about what projects will occur when the intellectual property agreement is made. However, there will be no interference between projects.
 
Reading that the deal won't officially go through until May so there's unlikely to be any kind of announcement until after then. Given Barbara and Michael are still technically involved I wonder again whether they'll have any say in the future direction or whether they'll be strictly silent partners banking a cheque? I suspect the latter, but hope for the former, I'm not expecting a veto per se but maybe they'd be able to stop Amazon doing anything monumentally stupid? Or at least advise against it. Faint hope I know.

Hey maybe in 5 years time we'll all be laughing about how foolish we were when Amazon pump out two top draw Bond films starring Aidan Turner :D

What would people's redlines be? What would stop you seeing he next Bond film? Sadly I think they'd really have to not only drop the ball but drop the ball down a borehole in the arctic for me to categorically not give the next film a chance. Maybe if they hire The Rock to be Bond and it's directed by Zack Snyder?

I figure if they pump out a load of TV series; M, Q, Moneypenny, 003, a Loki style series where Blofeld becomes an antihero*...I suppose we don't have to watch them, but then I don't have to watch all the SW shows but I do.

* Just imagining if we'd had streaming in the 80s, would we have seen a show featuring the continuing adventures of Jaws and Dolly? Or an anthology show where each week various people fall foul of/or are helped by Geoffrey Holder's Baron Samedi?
I don’t think they’ll do anything radical like make him American, play it for out and out laughs or into a horror franchise. I think the worst thing that I’m braced for is that it might be a bit bland, generic or frankly boring.
 
American???

Perish the Thought!!!...Bond is British!!!

(well, ok Scottish or Welsh or Irish or...)

But most certainly NOT American...!!!
 
I predict assault teams descending from the skylights of an Amazon warehouse to raid the hidden lab within...drones filming a dynamic battle which pans through every shelf...Bond lobbing bottles of wee at the baddies. "Now you've got me pissed off..."
 
Perhaps I misspoke?

British from England?
Scottish from Scotland
Irish from Ireland?
Welsh from Wales?

Apologies from this Colonial if I got the terms wrong!

Rule Britannia!!!

(cue electric guitar Bond theme!)
 
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