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How old are the kids anyway? It reminds me of the angry people complaining about the Dax kiss, who were asked by a production member if they would've been ok with Dax shooting someone instead of kissing her, and they said yes, to which the production person (Behr?) said: maybe it's this attitude that could screw up their kids more than DS9 does.
8th grade. They know about LGBTQ+ folks now and my boy told me he knew kids at school who were gay. I told him that was fine.
 
Their age is irrelevant, the only "LGBTQ+ content" in the show is simply people existing in the same way the heterosexual characters do.
That's mostly, but not entirely, true.

I don't have much of a problem showing Discovery to my kids. Their mother, who has a PhD in psychology and years of experience with counseling adolescents, doesn't want them to see it.
 
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Glad you're comfortable with it. Where I work, we don't have coworkers kissing and the like.

And, yeah, I know kids are born that way. I've told my twins as much and that they should stand up for their gay classmates and that it was ok to be friends with them.

But I do think that, for prepubescent kids, with all the changes to their bodies and with their identities not fully set, that they don't need to be confused by all this multi-gender stuff. As they get older, as my kids are now, I think it's ok and right to make them aware of LGBTQ+ folks and teach tolerance and civility and kindness towards them, like everyone else.
I grew up in a household where any kind of LGBT thing on a tv show or film in the 90s/00s was muted or channel changed and comments about how disgusting it is just casually thrown about. It didn't stop me ending up gay but some sense of normalisation certainly would have helped avoid fear and self loathing.

Discovery doesnt go overboard with it by any stretch of the imagination, in fact I think male kissing is exclusively quick pecks on the lips, certainly no sex scenes. All of that is hetero content but even that massively dissolves after the first season.

I'd say the negative aspect to bring up about Discovery's LGBT content is that they put all their characters in basically one family box together. Two gay dads, non binary adopted daughter and their trans boyfriend and Reno is the quirky lesbian aunt. It could be argued better representation would involve integration.
 
some folks don't think it's healthy for their pre-teen kids to see it.
how does it affect anyone's health?

they don't need to be confused by all this multi-gender stuff. As they get older, as my kids are now, I think it's ok and right to make them aware of LGBTQ+ folks and teach tolerance and civility and kindness towards them, like everyone else.

They know about LGBTQ+ folks now and my boy told me he knew kids at school who were gay. I told him that was fine.
if they are aware and you want them to be tolerant, civil, kind, and are fine with them being friends, why do you keep the very same issue in a tv show deliberately hidden from them?

Their mother, who has a PhD in psychology and years of experience with counseling adolescents, doesn't want them to see it.
then she is the problem. can she explain why? also this raises concerns about her qualifications counseling vulnerable kids, with such an attitude. she may do more harm than good :crazy:
 
Other people are covering the content of your post better than I can, rocketscientist, but I will inform of the multiquote button, so you don't need to make four posts right after each other.
 
I grew up in a household where any kind of LGBT thing on a tv show or film in the 90s/00s was muted or channel changed and comments about how disgusting it is just casually thrown about. It didn't stop me ending up gay but some sense of normalisation certainly would have helped avoid fear and self loathing.

Discovery doesnt go overboard with it by any stretch of the imagination, in fact I think male kissing is exclusively quick pecks on the lips, certainly no sex scenes. All of that is hetero content but even that massively dissolves after the first season.

I'd say the negative aspect to bring up about Discovery's LGBT content is that they put all their characters in basically one family box together. Two gay dads, non binary adopted daughter and their trans boyfriend and Reno is the quirky lesbian aunt. It could be argued better representation would involve integration.
I hope things are good for you now, Nacelle.

Yeah, I agree Discovery doesn't go overboard with it at all. I feel that it's not much of an issue with my kids at the age they are now, but their mother disagrees and I have to respect her wishes.

And, yeah, you bring up a good point in the last paragraph. That's kind of what I was alluding too. It makes it feel really forced. It exceeds the demographics.
 
if they are aware and you want them to be tolerant, civil, kind, and are fine with them being friends, why do you keep the very same issue in a tv show deliberately hidden from them?


then she is the problem. can she explain why? also this raises concerns about her qualifications counseling vulnerable kids, with such an attitude. she may do more harm than good :crazy:
1. I don't keep it hidden from them. They know about it because I've told them.

2. I've already told you her reasoning. As for her qualifications, she has a PhD from a very well-respected university program and was given the opportunity to be the head of children's counseling at a university health institute and she's their mother. In this regard, as her husband, I have to bow to her wishes.
 
I hope things are good for you now, Nacelle.

Yeah, I agree Discovery doesn't go overboard with it at all. I feel that it's not much of an issue with my kids at the age they are now, but their mother disagrees and I have to respect her wishes.

And, yeah, you bring up a good point in the last paragraph. That's kind of what I was alluding too. It makes it feel really forced. It exceeds the demographics.
Thank you, I'm a reasonably functional 30-something these days.

Teaching your children about tolerance and equality is good, I applaud you for it. Some of what you've said does sound worrying but I can't tell you what to do and I wouldn't try to.
 
Thank you, I'm a reasonably functional 30-something these days.

Teaching your children about tolerance and equality is good, I applaud you for it. Some of what you've said does sound worrying but I can't tell you what to do and I wouldn't try to.
I'm glad you're doing ok. Life is hard for everybody, obviously some more than others.

I'm trying to teach my kids compassion, tolerance, respect, and kindness for others, since I feel we are all God's children and it's just the right thing to do. Also, everyone should have the freedom to pursue their own path in this life in pursuit of their own happiness and that should be nobody's business but they're own (as long as they're not hurting others, of course). Plus, I truly hate bullying. Crushing someone's soul like that is just pathetic, hateful, and stupid. Bullies are always losers.
 
I'm glad you're doing ok. Life is hard for everybody, obviously some more than others.

I'm trying to teach my kids compassion, tolerance, respect, and kindness for others, since I feel we are all God's children and it's just the right thing to do. Also, everyone should have the freedom to pursue their own path in this life in pursuit of their own happiness and that should be nobody's business but they're own (as long as they're not hurting others, of course). Plus, I truly hate bullying. Crushing someone's soul like that is just pathetic, hateful, and stupid. Bullies are always losers.
You and I may not share the same reasons to come to the same conclusion as I'm not religious at all but if more people just believed in basic niceness the world would be a better place.
 
1. I don't keep it hidden from them. They know about it because I've told them.

2. I've already told you her reasoning. As for her qualifications, she has a PhD from a very well-respected university program and was given the opportunity to be the head of children's counseling at a university health institute and she's their mother. In this regard, as her husband, I have to bow to her wishes.
A PhD is only relevant if the topic was the matter at hand, and the respectability of the program only matters if it matches as well. Can she explain why, in her expert opinion, kids seeing LGBT characters on TV is undesirable? Not that you have to ask her and drag her into a forum she isn't part of, but it makes very little sense to me. Good intentions, care, thoughtfulness, openness all matter in raising kids. Degrees do not.
 
A PhD is only relevant if the topic was the matter at hand, and the respectability of the program only matters if it matches as well. Can she explain why, in her expert opinion, kids seeing LGBT characters on TV is undesirable? Not that you have to ask her and drag her into a forum she isn't part of, but it makes very little sense to me. Good intentions, care, thoughtfulness, openness all matter in raising kids. Degrees do not.
Um, my wife's specialty was child development, I believe. I thought I mentioned that.

She believes that pre-pubescent children being exposed to LGBTQ+ issues and characters on television can cause confusion and possibly, I guess, harm.

She's not a homophobe though. She has several gay friends.

And I agree, degrees don't matter much when raising kids.

If they did, my son wouldn't hate math as much as he does.
 
Um, my wife's specialty was child development, I believe. I thought I mentioned that.

She believes that pre-pubescent children being exposed to LGBTQ+ issues and characters on television can cause confusion and possibly, I guess, harm.
Based on what data? Was her thesis on that, or did it refer to such results?
 
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Therefore it it just her opinion and it's not connected to her training and professional background.
It'll be fine if none of the kids are LGBT, and thank you for not simply ignoring my questions when you totally could have.
I just wanted to understand the discrepancy, thank you!
 
Therefore it it just her opinion and it's not connected to her training and professional background.
It'll be fine if none of the kids are LGBT, and thank you for not simply ignoring my questions when you totally could have.
I just wanted to understand the discrepancy, thank you!
She said it was based on her knowledge as a psychologist.
 
Someone has to bring up the elephant in the room, so it might as well be me.

Discovery's not anyone's first Star Trek series. Someone who'd get a subscription to CBS All Access or Paramount+ because of Star Trek would already be a fan of it or interested in it. Anyone who got into Star Trek during the 2010s probably did so through the Abrams Movies or seeing the older series on Netflix. Maybe a Star Wars fan wants to give Star Trek a try. They'll probably start with TOS, TNG, the Movies, or some combination of those three. The ones they've heard of. Those are the entry points into Star Trek.

If Discovery weren't behind a paywall, or if it were behind a paywall most people have like Netflix, then it would've been a different story. We'd have actually had those fans who discovered Star Trek through Discovery.

That’s a very misguided elephant given Discovery began on Netflix in most of the world. I know several people for whom it was their first Trek series.

Some went on to enjoy other Trek series, but a few were driven away by the toxic, moronic elements of the fanbase. Case in point:

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