maybe a dumb question, but who is Tezza? and i am quite happy assuming they all survive lol. Lets do Legacy, and see them all again. :P
Garrett Wang on his original role in PIC S3.
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Mr Terry Matalas, Picard S2/3 showrunner.
i know who matalas is.... how do you get Tezza from that?
Oh, it’s a British/Irish/Australian thing. Like how Gary becomes Gazza/Gaz, Terry or Teresa can become Tezza.
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Matalas did indeed say Shelby survived, though I question the claim all the same. We saw her shot with a red beam, which in Picard means kill, the stun setting is a blue beam. Regardless, she was also shot at close range, which we know from TUC even a stun setting can kill if fired at close range. Bottom line, Shelby's dead.
Despite her five pipped rank insignia, I didn't get the impression Shelby was the CinC. Given the way everyone talks about Janeway throughout the season, I was led to believe that was her.
It's a comedy. And Kim being an ensign forever is a joke, not a theory.
I think Ro is a bit more plausible because we didn't see her die on screen.
Though the fact she didn't show up again doesn't help.
Having both of them survive is just a bullshit fan theory that allows Matalas to have his cake and eat it. If he wanted them to survive, why kill them off on screen? Ro’s death was perfectly legitimate dramatically, and it was very final.
But Shelby’s was just a cameo and meant nothing, which is maybe why he’s pretending she might have survived. It’s the same throwing away of characters for a cheap shock that was criticised in PIC S1.
Personally I don’t mind that she’s dead, but he should stick to his guns rather than comfort fans with the reset button. If you kill a character for a good reason you should stand by it. No backsies.
But Shelby’s was just a cameo and meant nothing, which is maybe why he’s pretending she might have survived. It’s the same throwing away of characters for a cheap shock that was criticised in PIC S1.
Personally I don’t mind that she’s dead, but he should stick to his guns rather than comfort fans with the reset button. If you kill a character for a good reason you should stand by it. No backsies.
i have literally never heard of that in my life lol. Thanks for the info. Neither google nor Grok had any idea when i asked it either lol.Oh, it’s a British/Irish/Australian thing. Like how Gary becomes Gazza/Gaz, Terry or Teresa can become Tezza.
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i think it should be the other way around. I think Ro might have been able to have contingencies and layers of plans in place, whereas Shelby would have been caught completely off guard order 66 style and had no real options.
The killing of legacy / fan favorite characters during all of Picard was a serious turn off.
That whole line in the denouement about how all the people that were taken and replaced with Changeling clones didn't actually die is such a fannish thing to pull, on top of the ill-advised bringing back legacy characters, only to seemingly kill them off.
Either you do it and commit to the bit, or don't do it at all.
Imagine if Shelby had been replaced by a Changeling. The shock of the Borg betraying them could be part of her reaction even...
They brought back Data (after he died TWICE!)
as a machine/synth/android he is the one that will always be immune to this rule.
It stopped being a joke when they chose to have it happen on an actual Trek.
Given that Shelby was a one-episode character (albeit a two-parter), and one that most of the audience found annoying, there wasn't going to be much impact to it. Ro's hit a lot harder.
Only mistake with Ro was not having her return to Starfleet the way it happened in the books, which made a lot more sense. She survived the end of the Maquis and joined the Bajoran militia, and when Bajor joined the Federation, much of the militia was integrated with Starfleet. Just made more sense that way.
Depends on the character. Icheb was appalling. But Ro at least had a heroic end.
They wanted to bring back all seven TNG leads. That meant bringing back Data.
It is probably the single most fanfic thing to ever come out of an official product. I'm sure it was the subject of many late 2000s spliced footage youtube videos
Rene Echevarria actually said in an interview on one of the TNG blu-rays that one of the most turned-down story pitches the writers sat through was Race A + Race B hook up to become the new heavy in the quadrant.
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