Do you consider Section 31 a Trek movie?

[F. King Daniel]

Personally I see it as a Long Trek (I.e. opposite of Short Treks), a 1-off feature length episode and not akin to the theatrical movies. It's more along the lines of those Babylon 5 feature length episodes and aborted pilot episodes. But what does everyone else think?

 

[The Wormhole]

Yes, it's Star Trek. The whole attitude amongst internet fandom of "I don't like it therefore it's not Star Trek" is way too silly to take seriously. Even bad Star Trek is still Star Trek. Anyone who has a problem with that should just go to their safe space where they can limit their exposure to whatever it is they consider "True Star Trek" and live in blissful ignorance.

Okay. after writing that rant out I realize I might have misunderstood the question being asked. Honestly, on the matter of whether or not it's the 14th movie or the first Long Trek? Po-tay-to, po-tah-to.

 

[Lord Garth]

It's a Long Trek.

Once another Star Trek movie comes out, whether it's the Prequel Movie, Star Trek 4, or something else that it's in cinemas, people will consider that to be the 14th Movie.

In the future, when more normie YouTube Reactors react to Star Trek movies, they'll go from Star Trek Beyond to whatever comes out in theaters next, whenever that is.

 

[Quantum21]

Two answers.

Apparently, it's produced by the movie division, it cost upwards of $80 million. It bears the marks of a proper movie.

But TV movies, even expensive ones have been released to networks or streaming without being cinematically released and were not counted as cinema movies.

So to me, this is a TV movie.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

While not a theatrical release (at least not beyond the premiere screenings that were probably shown on theater screens), it's been mentioned in some interviews and was promoted here and there as a Star Trek movie.

Even though it's a TV movie, I'm considering it a Star Trek movie.

 

[Saul]

Movie theater = Movie.

TV movie of the Week = Sci-fi channel in the 90s.

 

[Char Kais]

Apparently, it's produced by the movie division

No, the TV division. The production company is "CBS Studios" not "Paramount Pictures".

 

[James Cole]

Aside from Craiy Sweeny receiving a screenplay credit, the rest of the credits are all TV style.

 

[Nerys Myk]

Neither It's a TV movie

 

[Morpheus 02]

I actually vote C) A sequel to the future Pitch Meeting video about Section 31.

I was watching every other scene picturing the Pitch Meeting Producer saying "Hey...that's one of those aliens from that old TV episode/movie". Some parts felt like a movie... some parts felt like a fan made movie with obvious green screen.


Or i guess i would also even say it feels like the PILOT EPISODE of a series.. which it was supposed to be originally, right? They basically set up the cast, ready for th enext mission, complete with a favorite actor that has an excuse to come back, but with a different voice (almost like Tom Cvaanugh in the Flash)

 

[Ray Hardgrit]

The distinction between made for TV/streaming movies and theatrically released movies has gotten a little fuzzier in the era of Netflix, but this is clearly closer to Babylon 5: Legend of the Rangers than it is to Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace. It's not the 14th Trek movie, it's the 1st standalone streaming movie.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

The distinction between made for TV/streaming movies and theatrically released movies has gotten a little fuzzier in the era of Netflix, but this is clearly closer to Babylon 5: Legend of the Rangers than it is to Star Wars: Episode I - The Phantom Menace. It's not the 14th Trek movie, it's the 1st standalone streaming movie.

I have taken a more general approach and consider it a Star Trek movie, as opposed to the 14th or the 1st streaming movie.

And I agree on the distinction. Since some streaming movies have been nominated for Oscars, it muddies the waters a bit.

 

[Nerys Myk]

I have taken a more general approach and consider it a Star Trek movie, as opposed to the 14th or the 1st streaming movie.

And I agree on the distinction. Since some streaming movies have been nominated for Oscars, it muddies the waters a bit.

If it plays in a theatre for one showing it qualifies for the Oscars.

 

[KirkusOveractus]

If it plays in a theatre for one showing it qualifies for the Oscars.

I was wondering about that with Section 31 as well. The premiere showings were screened in theatres, so I wonder if that qualifies, or if it has to show for a general audience for at least one showing.

 

[Daedalus]

A very long Trek.

 

[StalwartUK]

It's basically a double-length episode.

 

[Turtletrekker]

It's a movie in the same way "Dark Frontier" was a movie. And that is what UPN advertised it as.

 

[Mechanoid1]

Section 31 was redeveloped into a film, which was announced in April 2023. Omari Hardwick, Sam Richardson, Robert Kazinsky, Kacey Rohl, Sven Ruygrok, James Hiroyuki Liao, Humberly González, and Joe Pingue also star. Filming took place in Toronto, Canada, from January to March 2024. The film was produced by CBS Studios in association with Secret Hideout, Action This Day!, and Roddenberry Entertainment.

Star Trek: Section 31 was released on Paramount+ on January 24, 2025. It has received generally negative reviews.
(Thank you Wiki for the clarification)

 

[The Wormhole]

the future Pitch Meeting video about Section 31.

"So the movie starts of with a teenage Georgiou returning home to her family."
"Where's she been?"
"Competing in this competition in which young people from across the Terran Empire have to kill each other in order to prove worthy of-"
"Oh, like the Hunger Games?"
"...No."
"Okay, so what happened? Did Georgiou win?"
"Not exactly, it all came down to her and this young guy San, only they couldn't kill each other because they'd both fallen in love with each other."
"That is The Hunger Games."
"Oh. Damn it. You think the audience will catch that?"
"No, Star Trek fans notoriously don't know anything that isn't Star Trek, you're safe."

 

[SG-17]

No, the TV division. The production company is "CBS Studios" not "Paramount Pictures".

I mean that pretty much settles it then, the most generous definition would be a TV movie.

Feature length episode.
Two parter.
Full length pilot.

Not a movie.