I'd earlier suggested Piotr was prime universe Pavel's imaginary friend, but I suppose he could have been a miscarried baby instead.
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Considering the Abrams movies have Chekov born several years earlier than he should have, it's definitely possible for Piotr to actually exist there. For all we know, if a 4th movie ever does happen with the Abrams movies, given Anton Yelchin's death, they may bring in Piotr Chekov.
The tech advances in the Kelvinverse also saved Piotr or enabled the Chekovs to have more kids, you mean?
Well, I'd think it was funny, and so would at least 3 or 4 other people who read this board...
No.
I mean since the Kelvinverse was already screwing things up like having Chekov be born 6 years earlier than in the Prime universe, his parents simply may have had another kid after Pavel was born.
For all we know Michael Burnham had a completely different destiny in the Kelvin Timeline and never even joined Starfleet, nor even lost her father in a Klingon border raid. So the Zachary Quinto Spock might never have even heard of her much less associated her with being an adopted human sister.
Might be the best justification of the Kelvinverse I've ever heard. At the very least, it would force Burnham's character to stand on her own rather than be tethered to him.
Creche baby.
That was my thinking too. That the Narada incursion pushed off the Klingon War and resulted in more internal conflict over the ship and dealing with Nero's crew.
Burnham is in Starfleet but a much different trajectory than Prime because she didn't deal with the trauma.
The Doctari Alpha raid also occurred in or around 2235 which would have been two years after the Narada incursion, so it's entirely possible nothing we heard of happening between the Federation and the Klingons in the 2230s and 2240s in DSC ever happened in the Kelvin Timeline, or precious little of that. If Michael's father was never killed then she might have grown up with both her parents and pursued a scientific career or another line of work that never involved Starfleet.
I’ve decided to add The Lieutenant to the Roddenverse. It has zero SF content, but it’s crammed with future Trekkers in front of and behind the camera. Also the main character has the middle name “Tiberius”.
I suppose you could transfer Lt. Rice from the Marine Corps to the Space Force to make it more “science fiction “.
Let's see. In the TOS episode 'Arena ', the Metrons were a thousand years ahead of the Federation. In Star Trek: Discovery, the Federation is now in the catbird's seat.
Why wasn't it more advanced?
My answer: it was. They, the crew were in Individual holodecks living out their fantasies.
In other words a Zoo.
Why wasn't it more advanced?
My answer: it was. They, the crew were in Individual holodecks living out their fantasies.
In other words a Zoo.
Advancement isn't steady. It's full of false starts, set backs, dead ends and plateaus.
Look at the Klingons. They had warp before even Earth did but their technology remains largely unchanged or at least remarkably similar across the whole Trek franchise.
My head-canon on that is that they got all of their advanced spacefaring tech from the Hurq occupation. The D7 design was actually a Hurq design and there were a ton of them in Klingon space when they were overthrown and the Klingons just reverse-engineered them and kept building new ships based on that design. The wonky designs we saw in DSC were their own attempts at new ships, which failed, and they went back to building D7’s and K’t’ingas.
I'm with you generally, but in reverse order.
The DISCO design that we saw were "Hurq StarShip Designs" that the Klingons inherited.
Look at the overly complex curvature of those designs that we saw in S1 of DISCO.
Given the relatively primitive nature of Klingon Society & Technology, does that look like a people that can create such complex shapes or will even care to do so?
Then look at the more simplistic shapes of the general Klingon Aesthetic that we know & love.
Those are "True Klingon" original designs.
The D7's, K'tingas, B'rel, etc.
In my head canon T'Kuvma's Sarcophagus ship was a retrofitted Hur'q warship that the Klingons had acquired centuries before. When the Augment Virus wreaked havoc on the Empire and the different houses began to splinter the factions used Hur'q technology to supplement their own.
I'm the same way, but the various "Noble Klingon Houses" all inherited plenty of old Hurq ships that were passed down as trophies of defeating the Hurq from all those centuries ago.
The StarShips work, but they're very "Odd" in design.
Then we see the ships that Klingons designs and they're far more Boxy / Sharp angled and less organic shaped & less gothic inspired.
When they realized that they lost alot of their Hurq vessels in the Federation vs Klingon war, they realized that they couldn't just keep on using older tech.
So it was kind of a god send that the First Chancellor unified all the Noble Houses under the Klingon High Council and the KDF nationalized production.
This gave the the economies of scale & didn't depend on each family buying individually.
Ergo with the Imperial Klingon Defense Forces, brought down the cost to manufacture by standardization with minor amounts of customization allowed for each Captain.
My new head canon is that "Herbert" is the late 23rd century version of "Okay, Boomer."
The Talosians won?
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