Mm-hmm. He was a "man in love" and choked his pregnant wife for his unfounded jealousy and jumping to conclusions about why Obi-Wan emerged from the ship. Yes, that's true love...if they are driven by possessive, psychopathic tendencies.
It's almost like you have never seen countless stories of IRL love and how some relationships tend to go down that route.
Some relationships do end up in Domestic Violence. That's a common IRL occurance.
www.aamft.org
Domestic violence is very common in American families. In almost 20 percent of all marriages and intimate partnerships, couples slap, shove, hit, or otherwise assault each other. Emotional abuse—verbal threats, humiliating or degrading remarks, and controlling behavior—is even more common.
Intimate partner violence is especially common among young couples, and, without intervention, may escalate in intensity or frequency. Relationships are challenging, and some couples deal with conflict by becoming aggressive, controlling and mean. Abuse can begin with subtle actions. For example, otherwise happy couples might lose their tempers, or one might become possessive or critical. This may get ignored or downplayed, but small acts of aggression often lead to more damaging behavior. Sometimes abuse gradually develops into severe violence after couples are marriage or in long-term relationships that are difficult to change. Couples frequently excuse or ignore early aggressive incidents and believe that once current stressors end, the violence will end. However, even minor acts of violence can escalate over time, increasing the risk of injury or even homicide.
Anakin & Padme were a 'Young Married Couple' under a lot of stress with their marriage.
It did not matter if Mace killed or arrested Palpatine.
Actually it does, that was the critical moment that Palpatine's trap was set.
That was literally the most critical point in Palpatine's plan.
If it didn't work, he would've been arrested & potentially, the rest of his plan exposed.
All his work would've been for nothing if that point failed & he couldn't turn Anakin into his apprentice.
He would've been stopped by the rest of the Jedi Order.
Palpatine had no "Plan B". There were no more Sith Apprentices to save him. Dooku was dead.
If Palpatines gamble on turning Anakain into his new apprentice failed, the rest of the Star Wars timeline would've severely deviated.
The Empire wouldn't have ever risen with him in charge.
The rest of the Original Trilogy would've never existed, much less the following sequel Trilogy or any future content based on that specific timeline.
At that point, you would need a split timeline in the Star Wars Universe to show what happens since it wouldn't mesh up with the OT.
Anakin embraced ultimate evil for his own desires, not any sense of justice, as punctuated with his "I need him!". Anakin was every bit a man who could not be trusted, as Mace stated earlier in the film.
He embraced it to attain power to protect "Padme".
He clearly stated to her that he was willing to overthrow the Emperor/Palpatine & rule alongside Padme.
The Emperor's "Power" was just a "Ends to a Mean" for her safety in his mind.
He even clearly stated that to Padme before he "Force Choked" her & then the final battle between him & Obi Wan happened.
It is not reaching the mass cultural appeal of the OT, so their experiments are not the success you imagine them to be.
As I stated before, it doesn't need to beat the OT / Original Film to be successful.
The vast majority of Hollywood understands that & accepts it.
Only you measure it by that metric, the rest of Hollywood doesn't have those expectations.
Anybody who is in the business to make money understands that.
They have Realistic Expectations, I can't say the same for you.
You expect everything to be "Ground Breaking / Earth Shattering" records, otherwise, it's a failure.
That's so unrealistic in the modern day to expect that to happen, I don't know why you have such extreme expectations for everything, but that seems to be who you are.
Nope. I do not believe in blood-sucking a concept dry, when each new product moves away from that which made the original productions global phenomenons in the first place. Neverending draining of any IP (with weaker, less-appealing content) never leads to greater success. That should be apparent.
Then you must be so dissatisfied with every Franchise out there.
Cause everything has been Blood-sucked to death by this point.
There's nothing "Original" for you to enjoy.
You must be so bored of every Sci-Fi franchise in existence.
Were you this upset when ST:TNG came into existence after TOS?
What about DS9, VOY & all the countless spin-offs?
How about Battle Star Galactica, it has it's spin-offs.
Same with the StarGate franchise.
Or the endless continuation of Dr. Who.
You must be so bored out of your mind.
Never mind that there probably won't be many new Sci-Fi franchise to beat the original Star Wars within our life times given Inflation Adjusted Box Office #'s.
That was literally a once in a life-time moment, and it's done.
en.wikipedia.org
The original Star Wars sits at #4 after you adjust for inflation.
At that point, only James Cameron's "Avatar" beats Star Wars in Inflation adjusted "Gross Box Office" revenue.
Do you consider "Avatar" a cultural phenomenon like "Star Wars", much less "Star Trek"?
Everything else, falls somewhere below the Original Star Wars movie.
Even "Avengers: EndGame" falls just short of the Original Star Wars movie.
That required countless individual movies to build up to that high point.
So be prepared for a lifetime of disappointment; your expectations for something to beat the previous Record Holder/Box Office Breaker is unlikely to happen.
Your oft-mentioned desire is to turn Star Wars into a generic sci-fi concept having no foundational relationship to that which created / defined the concept.
You're the only one who believes that my vision would do that.
When Disney has already clearly shown that they are already willing to do different types of Story Telling since the start.
And it has worked, there are fans who have embraced the new content.
It sucks that you don't like it, you're not open-minded enough to embracing new / different types of content in the same Universe.
That's a "You Specific" Problem, not a problem for the rest of the fandom.
BS. The term "Mumbo Jumbo" was been consciously & habitually misused (from its original meaning) by atheists across generations as a purely derisive attack against religions, and you've used it in that same manner in this discussion.
"Mumbo Jumbo" is a generic term by this point, only you seem associate it with atheistic meaning.
I just see it as generic utter non-sense based on my PoV / Interpretation based on my upbringing.
That's the hyper-Anakin-defensive position Kamen Rider Blade supports; nevermind any sense of the individual taking responsibility for his own actions--Anakin being a genocidal, willing agent of evil is excusable because he was a young man in love (when he was not murdering children, his fellow Jedi, Force-choking his pregnant wife, and on and on and on).
Who said he was fully excusable? You allegate that.
Anakin has his part to play obviously & his share of responsibility. But it wasn't soley his fault.
I've stated that a million times, but you seemed to be dogmatic in that if it isn't one end of the spectrum, it's the extreme other end.
You literally lack nuance / understanding in analysis. You seem to be a man of polar extremes & no room in the middle road for interpretation.
Part of analyzing fictional stories along with their characters is to see how they get to that point.
That's a easy thing to do for characters since their entire history is presented to the audience up to that point where they fell.
The entire world history, setting & context is shown to the audience for easy analysis & review.
You wonder why people defend characters & don't jump to a 100% Extreme Judgement like you do?
They've literally seen their life history from their childhood, to the point where they fall.
They understand the road to how that character gets to that position.
IRL is far more complicated since personal history for any individual isn't written down like a Story for you to peruse from Start to End.
If we go by your definition of "Sole Individual Personal Responsibility needed to be taken"
Every Single member of the Resistance, ever Single member of the Empire would be culpable.
The amount of blood on their hands is ridiculous.
There wouldn't be any "Good People" portrayed on screen since everybody is culpable for massive death counts & endless suffering.
Doesn't matter if it's the "Empire vs the Rebels".
Doesn't matter if it's the "First Order vs the Resistance".
All you're doing is just watching people murder each other in the name of their faction & ideologies at that point.
Then you're not watching good people do good things; you're just watching people living their life, going through suffering on their journey through life.
The only innocent people are the civilian bystandards who don't participate in the storyline and sit on the sidelines by your definition.
