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Spoilers The Controversial Star Wars Opinion Thread

Choking is telekinesis.

And we did have a ghost in ANH. ( But yeah, he didn't give a lengthy dissertation, so grounded! )
 
Choking is telekinesis.

And we did have a ghost in ANH. ( But yeah, he didn't give a lengthy dissertation, so grounded! )


Okay. But I don't share your feelings about ANH. Don't get me wrong. I'm a fan. But it's not one of my top favorites produced by Lucas.
 
I have to confess, A New Hope is one of my least favorite entries in the franchise. I enjoy it, but I bigger scale of the later movies.
And Rise of Skywalker is one of my favorites, but the lack of a clear explanation for Palpatine's return does knock it down a few notches. Yes, I know you know can kind of put it together from context, but it would have been nice if the movie had actually explained it.
 
As much as I didn't care for a lot of the old post-ROTJ Expanded Universe with the exception of the Thrawn Trilogy and a few other stories I do like how explicit those books and comics were about Palpatine's evil spirit being reincarnated inside a new clone body. TROS and J.J. Abrams were pretty lackluster in driving home that narrative and the lines about the dark magic and knowledge of the Sith were okay, but never enough.

Ian McDiarmid delivered an excellent performance as always, but damn, his reason for being in the film is so hamfisted and badly telegraphed to the audience.
 
I thought his reappearance was both annoying and understandable at the same time. Ever since TCW and The PT and then Rebels Palpatine became like the Jason or other horror villain of the franchise; he can't die.

Yes, I think it could have used more explanation, but good grief I at least preferred this appearance to the Clone Emperor nonsense of the EU.
 
It just shouldn't have taken 3 movies and happen off screen between ep 8 and 9 to explain that. To make narrative sense, that needed to be clear in ep 7.

Of course, that would have required a cohesive plan for the sequel trilogy.
 
They're the same thing. Palpatine's return in TROS was "the clone emperor nonsense of the EU".
Not for me.

The story was different and not enjoyable in the books.

It was annoying in the films but slightly tolerable. Not by much, but a thin difference between entertainment and not for me.

Mileage may vary.
 
It just shouldn't have taken 3 movies and happen off screen between ep 8 and 9 to explain that.
Don't you mean happen off screen between 6 and 7?
To make narrative sense, that needed to be clear in ep 7.
What difference does it make what movie it's in, if the objective is to make narrative sense?
fireproof78 said:
Not for me.

The story was different and not enjoyable in the books.

It was annoying in the films but slightly tolerable. Not by much, but a thin difference between entertainment and not for me.
I wasn't talking about the subjective feeling of entertainment, I was talking about the plot. It's the same plot device as in the comics.
 
wasn't talking about the subjective feeling of entertainment, I was talking about the plot. It's the same plot device as in the comics.
As with all plot devices it comes down to execution. I don't mind the device; I hated the execution in the EU.

This coming from someone who likes Triclops as Palpatine's son.
 
Sounds like a Disney marketing decision for sure, though I wouldn't be surprised if JJ had a hand in it.
 
JJ probably already planned to cut the message and Disney decided to take advantage of a cross-promotional opportunity.
 
I'm tired of Jedi vs Sith.

I'd rather see a future Star Wars Universe where the Grey Jedi finally take over & dominate the discussion and not make it so polarizing as the dogmatic Jedi or the power hungry Authoritarian Sith.

It's time to let the Old Jedi & Sith concepts stay buried now that the "New Republic" era is over and "The First Order" is done.

Moving forward in time, Force users are more independent and not limited by Light Saber color, or affiliation to the Light/Dark side.

People can be more nuanced, complex, use both sides powers.

More of a world of Marvel like X-men Mutants & people with Super Powers.

Less Good vs Evil Force Factions.

Create a more dynamic multi-faction Star Wars Universe that is more nuanced.

More science, less mysticism.

More logic, less mumbo jumbo.
 
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