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Pelia and Akharin

It makes me wonder, how did Flint change his appearance back in the days before modern Plastic Surgery?

It's stated that he looked like completely different people in the past.

Flint has lived so long, but the appearance generally couldn't be changed & the earliest recorded reconstructive surgery was only in 1600 BC where they were fixing a broken nose.

Before the 20th century, reconstructive surgery was very primitive.

I wonder how he changed his appearance in the past before modern Reconstructive Surgery that can make you look like a different person?
 
Heavy makeup, fake horsehair beard, haircut, hair dye, changing his gait.

You didn't have to worry about it so much in the days before quick cross-country travel, cameras, DNA and fingerprints. Just go far away on foot or by horse/camel and nobody there would likely know you.

Even now, this brings a meme to mind:

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That's an interesting question; is it better, plot-wise, to have all kinds of immortals/other alien species incognito on Earth at various times, or to have all of those belong to the same species?
 
It makes me wonder, how did Flint change his appearance back in the days before modern Plastic Surgery?

It's stated that he looked like completely different people in the past.

Flint has lived so long, but the appearance generally couldn't be changed & the earliest recorded reconstructive surgery was only in 1600 BC where they were fixing a broken nose.

Before the 20th century, reconstructive surgery was very primitive.

I wonder how he changed his appearance in the past before modern Reconstructive Surgery that can make you look like a different person?
He moved to a different region and changed his hairstyle: grew/removed facial hair, shaved his head, dyed his hair... Pretty easy in an age before photography and ID required. No one in Renaissance Italy would know what Lazarus looks like. How many people in 1800s Germany would know what Leonardo looked like? Even if they noticed a resemblance, Brahms and Leonardo lived hundreds of years apart.
 
He moved to a different region and changed his hairstyle: grew/removed facial hair, shaved his head, dyed his hair... Pretty easy in an age before photography and ID required. No one in Renaissance Italy would know what Lazarus looks like. How many people in 1800s Germany would know what Leonardo looked like? Even if they noticed a resemblance, Brahms and Leonardo lived hundreds of years apart.
True, assuming he wasn't horribly disfigured in the face or anywhere else easily visible, he could easily pass as another person and just have others stand in for paintings before the age of photography.

The earliest photographic image (Photo Etching as it was called at the time) wasn't until 1822. But that iteration was lost and the only surviving photo etching was from 1826.
Because Niépce's camera photographs required an extremely long exposure (at least eight hours and probably several days)

So there's a GIANT chunk of time where he could get away with becoming another Persona.

Only until after modern record keeping & photographic ID's would it be much more difficult to monitor a person since he would need "Friends in the Government" to modify personal government ID data.
 
True, assuming he wasn't horribly disfigured in the face or anywhere else easily visible, he could easily pass as another person and just have others stand in for paintings before the age of photography.

The earliest photographic image (Photo Etching as it was called at the time) wasn't until 1822. But that iteration was lost and the only surviving photo etching was from 1826.


So there's a GIANT chunk of time where he could get away with becoming another Persona.

Only until after modern record keeping & photographic ID's would it be much more difficult to monitor a person since he would need "Friends in the Government" to modify personal government ID data.
Probably why he went from being a scientist/artist/philosopher to being a rich guy.
 
Heavy makeup, fake horsehair beard, haircut, hair dye, changing his gait.

You didn't have to worry about it so much in the days before quick cross-country travel, cameras, DNA and fingerprints. Just go far away on foot or by horse/camel and nobody there would likely know you.

Even now, this brings a meme to mind:

79whukhmak4a1.jpg

He moved to a different region and changed his hairstyle: grew/removed facial hair, shaved his head, dyed his hair... Pretty easy in an age before photography and ID required. No one in Renaissance Italy would know what Lazarus looks like. How many people in 1800s Germany would know what Leonardo looked like? Even if they noticed a resemblance, Brahms and Leonardo lived hundreds of years apart.
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So yeah, I completely believe that (Clark Kent / Superman) trope is very much real.
AKA as "Clark Kent-ing".



Imagine if they determined via genetic genealogy in the early 2020s that he was somebody's great x 10 grandfather. :crazy:
Given the countless wives he has had over his > 6103 year life span, that would be VERY plausible.



That's an interesting question; is it better, plot-wise, to have all kinds of immortals/other alien species incognito on Earth at various times, or to have all of those belong to the same species?
I'd prefer different species, that'd be FAR more interesting.

Pelia is just one of a handful of long lived beings from a different species.

With Flint being the weird random exception for a human being.



I'd imagine that if anybody was looking at StarFleet records and wanted to do medical / genetic modifications to create a "Immortality Syrum" to modify humans or humanoids en masse to be immortal, I'd imagine finding "Flint" or whatever his current alias would be incredibly important. Hell that could be an entire story arc that spans several seasons IMO.



Hypothetically after the encounter with the TOS crew, what if Flint went back to Earth for a century or two to recharge his "Immortality" since whatever energizes/fuels his "Immortality" is powered by Earth's Complex Fields.
Dr. Leonard McCoy later discovered that Akharin/Flint was finally dying, since his immortality had been sustained by Earth's complex fields; and had been sacrificed in the relocation to Holberg 917G.

Then he continued living anonymously amongst people and just traveled the stars periodically and comes back to Earth to "Recharge" his Immortality Battery.

Eventually he might find his perfect "UnDying Lover" in a female Android or Synth, maybe somebody like Soji Asha.

She's a Synth/Android, who knows how long she could potentially live, maybe forever or until her Synth Body starts breaking down and she needs to transfer her conciousness into a new body?

Imagine the romance story between a Immortal & Synth that Flint & Soji could have?

One that could potentially span centuries to milleniums.
 
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I asked not to create SUS,, But. Both resemble Caucasian humans. If they stayed in Europe until ~23d century, isn't there a chance they would have heard of or meet each other?
 
Surprised at the replies, so far
I asked not to create SUS,, But. Both resemble Caucasian humans. If they stayed in Europe until ~23d century, isn't there a chance they would have heard of or meet each other?
Europe covers 4 million square miles (10 million square km) so it seems unlikely. Though I'm sure Pelia has "acquired" a few of Flint's works over the Centuries.
 
Europe is large, but not that populated for most of the time. If both were living in the cities of most importance/scientific advancement, they might have been relatively near each other.
Good call as to Pelia having some of Flint's art.
 
Europe is large, but not that populated for most of the time. If both were living in the cities of most importance/scientific advancement, they might have been relatively near each other.
Good call as to Pelia having some of Flint's art.
Not sure she was into science prior to the 21st Century. ;)
 
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