I'm happy that you're happy!I'm already happy.
I'm happy that you're happy!I'm already happy.
You do know that late 21st century would imply 2079, not 2179, right?The next time we hear of any of this is in Encounter at Farpoint and we learn of the Post Atomic Horror in the late 21st century. (2179, right?)
EXACTLY!Maybe this is controversial...
Possibly the biggest mistake of the current era of shows is trying to match STAR TREK history with our own.
There's no need.
This is hilarious…. Did you use ai to generate this?Tell that to Wesley Crusher and his computer display.
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Funny, you should know exactly where that screen shot comes from, right?This is hilarious…. Did you use ai to generate this?
I don't know if you're joking or not, but that's from Prodigy.This is hilarious…. Did you use ai to generate this?
I will agree there is no need.Maybe this is controversial...
Possibly the biggest mistake of the current era of shows is trying to match STAR TREK history with our own.
There's no need.
You do know that late 21st century would imply 2079, not 2179, right?
2179 would be considered 22nd century.
You do you, if you want to follow the company line, so be it.
This type of "drama" makes it hard to take what you say seriously.You do you, if you want to follow the company line, so be it.
Ok, you do whatever you want.This type of "drama" makes it hard to take what you say seriously.
That's exactly what they are doing, per an interview with Kurtzman a while back. (I don't have the link, but I know it was discussed in a couple of threads a while back.) He was trying to say how making the histories match would make STAR TREK inspirational, which is dead wrong. It already is inspirational. I never agreed with his mentality about that. It also insults the intelligence of the audience. (I'm pretty sure I made that point during that discussion after that interview link was posted.)I will agree there is no need.
But that's not what Trek attempts to per on screen evidence.
So, people can work with that as they need.
I just don't see the insult. It's trying to bring Trek inline in a way that some have taken it and others disagree.That's exactly what they are doing, per an interview with Kurtzman a while back. (I don't have the link, but I know it was discussed in a couple of threads a while back.) He was trying to say how making the histories match would make STAR TREK inspirational, which is dead wrong. It already is inspirational. I never agreed with his mentality about that. It also insults the intelligence of the audience. (I'm pretty sure I made that point during that discussion after that interview link was posted.)
That excuse from Kurtzman and Goldsman never made any sort of sense, especially given Picard season 2 which they oversaw. That entire season is based around a pivotal manned space mission to Europa that's necessary for humanity to end up as the Federation.That's exactly what they are doing, per an interview with Kurtzman a while back. (I don't have the link, but I know it was discussed in a couple of threads a while back.) He was trying to say how making the histories match would make STAR TREK inspirational, which is dead wrong. It already is inspirational. I never agreed with his mentality about that. It also insults the intelligence of the audience. (I'm pretty sure I made that point during that discussion after that interview link was posted.)
Great!I treat Trek as a multiverse, based on what I see onscreen. If everyone agrees with me… great. If no one agrees with me… great.
I treat Trek as a multiverse, based on what I see onscreen. If everyone agrees with me… great. If no one agrees with me… great.
That's the greatest thing I've read all day.Great!
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In their defense, that was still a few years in the future from when that episode was produced.That excuse from Kurtzman and Goldsman never made any sort of sense, especially given Picard season 2 which they oversaw. That entire season is based around a pivotal manned space mission to Europa that's necessary for humanity to end up as the Federation.
Well, how is having a continuity with a manned space mission to Europa that's supposed to happen this year, and the result of which is to fix climate change, any more or less a fake history than Eugenics Wars happening in the 1990s?
Well put. The creative conceit of Star Trek is its an extrapolation of our future from what ever present it is being filmed or written in. No one on the creative side of Star Trek has been interested in "alternate history".In their defense, that was still a few years in the future from when that episode was produced.
I think the point is that they try to keep Trek as close to our reality as possible, which has been what most shows have done. When TOS went back in time to the 30's or the 60's, it very much looked like our 1930's or 1960's. In the Voyage Home, it was our 1980's San Francisco. Voyager went to 90's L.A. Enterprise to early 2000's Detroit, complete with Conan O'Brien. SNW did Toronto in the 2020's.
Now, they'll insert little things that differentiate them from purely being our timeline. Things like the Millennium gate from Voyager, or the bridge across Lake Ontario in Toronto, but generally every production has treated Trek as being our future.
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