Having grown up with animation of various types I never got the division of animation vs. live action.
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“Cartoons” makes me think of shorts like Looney Tunes/Merrie Melodies that are no longer than a single reel. That’s a completely different thing from LDS.
The English language/western culture needs a word analogous to the brilliantly simple-yet-descriptive Japanese “anime” that implies animated adult-themed content. Yes, anime has entered into our cultural lexicon, but it still seems to imply uniquely Japanese-styled or -originated animation, even in western terms. “Toonime”, maybe? Nah, that’s stupid, but along those lines. Needs to be Occidentally-specific, maybe a little clever and very succinct. “Cartoon” is simply too trite and demeaning a term for such advanced works, IMO.
At the script level, there is practically no distinction between the two. One might add a little more description in a script for an animated show, but the overall form is identical.
It's just the final delivery method of the story that differs.
'Anime' doesn't imply adult-themed content, it just means animation, which is a word we already have.
It used to be called just “Japanese Animation” before being shortened to “Anime”, because we westerners can’t help ourselves.
The show Bel-Air is a dramatic version of The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air.
Dark is chic now (We've had The Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. Sony is prepping Bewitched for a darker reboot.)
Lou Grant was a issues oriented drama spun off the sitcom The Mary Tyler Moor Show.
Trapper John, MD was a medical drama, spun off from M*A*S*H
McHale's Navy was a sitcom based on a one-hour drama titled "Seven Against the Sea" as part of the Alcoa Premiere anthology series.
Trapper John, MD was a medical drama, spun off from M*A*S*H
McHale's Navy was a sitcom based on a one-hour drama titled "Seven Against the Sea" as part of the Alcoa Premiere anthology series.
Not everyone grew up with animation. Regardless, most adults see animation as "cartoons for the kids" and won't bother. I generally prefer live action over animation. An animated film or series has to be above and beyond exceptional for me to sit down and give it a watch.
Tom and Jerry, Looney Tunes, Family Guy, Rick and Morty, it's all the same thing. It's cartoons.
Cartoons = western animated shows intended to make viewers laugh.
Anime = animated shows from Japan, usually serious, usually serializd.
You're welcome.
We're not discussing scripts; we're discussing finished product.
Specifically, Japanese animation. These days, sometimes people use the word to include western shows made to imitate anime art style.
Yes.
Please tell me you're kidding. This is one of those YT joke vids, right?
If you're looking up dark shows, sure. Plenty of bright upbeat shows to watch if you look for them.
And they would be exceptionally, objectively, wrong.
Because there are many animated shows, including Lower Decks, not meant for kids. That's a shortcut to false conclusions because it ignores all the extremely serious animated shows out there. And even the ones for kids were not about laughs all the time. Gargoyles and Avatar: The Last Air Bender were very much dramas.
They are not wrong, they are entitled to believe "cartoons are for kids."
Just as you are entitled to be an "adult who still watches cartoons."
Most people I know my age would see LD as a show for the middle schoolers.
Right, but the people who think cartoons are for kids don't care. When I was a kid, I couldn't get into Gargoyles, it was just too "for kids." I've watched some clips of Avatar, and it strikes me too much "after school cartoons." I'm also not fond of the emphasis on the four elements which is extremely unscientific. What is the appeal of this show to you? It is on my watchlist on Netflix, Paramount, or maybe both, I forget which of the two th show is on.
So, when you say the majority of adults consider animation to be "for children", are you saying that the multitudes of people who are disagreeing with you in this forum are not adults or that were in the minority? That your view and perspective is the only one that is accurate?
ETA: The content of the Gargoyles episode "Deadly Force" would be considered mature content even by today's standards. Hell, they might not even get away with "Deadly Force" in 2024.
ETA: The content of the Gargoyles episode "Deadly Force" would be considered mature content even by today's standards. Hell, they might not even get away with "Deadly Force" in 2024.
I never said it's "just for kids."
Why does it matter? If you like the show, enjoy it. I love Godzilla: The Series. I fully recognized it's aimed at the Elementary Schoolers, but I love it, because dang it, I never got a sequel to the 1998 movie, so close enough.
One day, I was at the gas station with 3 friends. Me and 2 others are all about 40. The 4th guy was in his mid 20's. We watched the classic 1987 TMNT intro on my phone in total silence like it was The Godfather or some shit. It is OK for grown men to watch cartoons, but let's just admit to ourselves, that's what they are and enjoy them for the fun they are.
Just as you are entitled to believe that The Simpsons is not an animated sitcom.
I mean, it's not. It's called a cartoon.Just as you are entitled to believe that The Simpsons is not an animated sitcom.
I mean, it's not. It's called a cartoon.
What empirical evidence do you have to back up this claim?
Again as I pointed out upthread, anime is not usually serious or serialized because you're confusing medium with genre once more. Slice of life comedic series such as K-ON or Teasing Master Takagi-San have extremely little continuity from episode-to-episode, and is actually close to being an animated sitcom.
This was in specific reference to fireproof's comment in a side tangent from the main discussion. You don't get to dictate how the discussion goes, by the way.
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Here is some evidence, the history of sitcoms.
I said usually, I did not say always. I am just speaking from personal exposure. I don't and never did proclaim to be all-knowing about anime.
Fair enough, I must have missed that.
The linked article is to a history of sitcoms, nothing about animation, even though "Animated sitcom" is linked at the bottom of the page:
Animated sitcom - Wikipedia
And look at that descriptor:
An animated sitcom is a subgenre of a television sitcom that is animated instead of being filmed live-action, and is generally made or created for adult audiences in most cases.
