I was going to comment how this place is starting to feel like Monty Python’s “Argument Clinic” sketch, but then somehow the air feels… fresher… in here now. I found myself with a rare smile on my face.
Aaaaaaand it's gone.
Tawny Newsome and Justin Simien developing new live-action Trek series
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Yep. It even had a laugh track and was shown in the evenings, when kids were in bed. It was basically an animated version of The Honeymooners.
That Trek has been a joke to people outside of the fandom for years? Possibly. It was my experience of being teased and joked about being a "Trekkie."
Various jokes I've seen in sitcoms, Saturday Night Live, and such over the last 20 years. Star Trek is a joke to many outside the fandom
Because a sitcom is against Star Trek...why?Same here, I loved seeing Star Trek go animated. Sitcom... just no.
Learn something new every day. A sitcom is a genre, and has nothing to do with the medium style. Simpsons, Flintstones, and many more exist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animated_sitcom
I cannot live such a compartmented life.
See above. Compartmentalizing my emotions is not something I can do. Never have.I don't cry.
I experienced that as a kid, but I haven't experienced it in the last 20 years.
Right, but... that doesn't mean it should be a sitcom. It just means it's an easy target for jokes, as is literally everything else that exists.
Same reason why I don't want to see a Cheers spin-off about a serial killer in a dark horror series.
What works in one format (drama) does not work in another (sitcom), not for me, anyway.
That's nice. I'm using the word sitcom to mean a sets, actors, maybe a live studio audience, bright colors, you get the idea. Family Matters is a sitcom, it's not a cartoon. The Simpsons is a cartoon, or you can call it an animated series, but it's not a sitcom. Where's the sets, where's the studio audience?
WTF? It's not a "compartmented life." It's just me wanting to know what I'm watching.
If we're ignoring YouTube and talking streamers, and we're talking TV shows, not movies:
Docuseries, dramas, sitcoms, animated show - I'm generally looking for one of these four.
It is better to control your emotions than to be controlled by them.
Haven't had those for years now. Sitcom is a genre. It means more than one thing. As demonstrated repeatedly here.
Cheers was not about the human adventure or delved in to multiple different formats. Trek has been set up since TOS on purpose to explore multiple genres within its framework.
I don't look at entertainment to tell me how to feel.
I control my emotions and am not ruled by them. I do not compartmentalize them away to be ignored. The Vulcan way is toxic to humans. I prefer the classic Stoics to the rigid "stiff upper lip" Vulcans.It is better to control your emotions than to be controlled by them.
Most modern sitcoms (Ted Lasso, Scrubs) do not have studio audiences.
The Simpsons's "sets" are either drawn on plastic sheets or stored in a computer.
They're not something you can haul out of the closet, but they exist nonetheless.
Everyone cries
A sitcom can still be achieved with the single camera set up and production values of the other shows.
This conceit of sitcoms only being on a partially built stage in front of a live studio audience and a three camera set up is an extremely old fashioned viewpoint of that what sitcoms used to be. The genre has significantly evolved since the turn of the century.
In fact, an old fashioned styled sitcom THE BIG BANG THEORY recently had a successful spin-off YOUNG SHELDON that was filmed in the single camera set up with no studio audience.
And as others have noted, the writers are aiming to make it more like the DS9 comedic episodes, which pretty much shuts down the notion that it might be an old style sitcom.
This conceit of sitcoms only being on a partially built stage in front of a live studio audience and a three camera set up is an extremely old fashioned viewpoint of that what sitcoms used to be. The genre has significantly evolved since the turn of the century.
In fact, an old fashioned styled sitcom THE BIG BANG THEORY recently had a successful spin-off YOUNG SHELDON that was filmed in the single camera set up with no studio audience.
And as others have noted, the writers are aiming to make it more like the DS9 comedic episodes, which pretty much shuts down the notion that it might be an old style sitcom.
And I disagree, "comedy" is the genre, "sitcom" is the format, it's a type of TV show, not a type of story.
I didn't compare Cheers to Star Trek. I said it'd be weird for a Cheers spin-off to not be a sitcom.
Star Trek (as a franchise) has always been drama first and foremost, plus a few animated shows (TAS, Lower Decks, Prodigy). It's never been a sitcom. I won't deny the existence of a Star Trek sitcom, but I won't watch it either. I don't trust anyone in the industry to do this and not go full retard.
You got what I said backwards. I pick TV shows based on how I feel, not to make me feel.
The Vulcan way of total logic and absolute emotional control is absolutely awesome. Yes, Vulcans aren't real, yes Humans cannot do what the Vulcans do, and as a Christian, there are things more important than logic, and emotions are important, but there you go. I have had friends that make Tuvok look as fun as Jack Black.
I have already acknowledged that, I was making a point, but you seem to have missed it.
They don't exist. A set is a physical place, not a drawing.
No, they don't, it's why we call it animation or cartoon.
It's about suppression not control.
As a Christian I acknowledge emotions; just not ruled by them. A Stoic would argue for acknowledging emotions while not making emotional decisions. That's my goal.
May your way be as pleasant.
No, I don't.
I won't deny this. Malcolm in the Middle is awesome.
I won't deny this either.
I am aware.
No, just no, please, no. The DS9 comedy episodes are fine when there's like 2 or 3 in a 26-episode season, Do not make that a whole series. It's like Trekkies want to be beat up and robbed.
I mean, that's been my fan experience over 30 years.It's like Trekkies want to be beat up and robbed.
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I can’t feel robbed when there’s like two other live action Trek shows running.
This dismissal of anything that is animated as merely a "cartoon" is insulting to the the fans, the creators, and the genre as a whole. Animation is as legitimate form of storytelling as any other, and capable of telling any kind of story for people of any age. It is not this one narrow thing that you seem to be making it out to be. You seem to deal too much in absolutes, my friend. A thing is either this or that. There are far more shades of gray in this world. A thing is capable of being more that one thing at once, and different things to different people. Voice actors are still actors. Animation directors are still directors. Animation writers are still writers. Animators are skilled professionals and artists who bring stories to life through pictures. Stories told through pictures predate the written word, let alone the film and television mediums. If animation is not your thing, that's fine. But don't dismiss an entire legitimate form of storytelling as this thing that's beneath your notice just because it's not your thing.
Yep.
Personally, I hate the word "cartoon" because it conjures up this image of dancing horses and singing flowers and talking rabbits. Animation is so much more diverse than that.
